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Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
BaffleBlend Hey there! Having fun? from Somewhere Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: LET'S HAVE A ZILLION BABIES
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#82302: Nov 1st 2015 at 5:36:56 PM

There's also the matter of how fickle Game Freak is. Even Sakurai's complained about how hard they are to work with.

It's the reason Pikachu, Jigglypuff, and Lucario have such shitty alt costumes in the first place. Game Freak demanded it.

Same with Sonic and Pac-Man with their respective companies, many suspect.

edited 1st Nov '15 5:38:26 PM by BaffleBlend

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Hungryguy I am a Rad Reptile. from inside a cheese wheel Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#82303: Nov 1st 2015 at 5:39:11 PM

Guys, guys. Have we forgotten the most important issue here? Raichu has no fingerstongue

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#82304: Nov 1st 2015 at 5:39:37 PM

[up][up]I'm actually kinda curious about why Lucario has costumes that are more-or-less tinted versions of his usual look with differently colored bellies, while Greninja and Charizard(!) have so much variety to their colors.

I think Jigglypuff and Pikachu having hats might be a holdover from SSB 64, though I'd love to have a Pachirisu-colored Pikachu one day.

As for Sonic, well... at least he's a LOT better about his colors in this game. They're still different shades of blue, but at least they aren't all the SAME shade.

edited 1st Nov '15 5:40:38 PM by NesClassic

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Karxrida from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
#82305: Nov 1st 2015 at 5:39:56 PM

It was TPCi, not GF. TPCi controls the marketing while GF develops the games.

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#82306: Nov 1st 2015 at 5:43:04 PM

TP Ci is also pretty much unreasonable and dumb as bricks, and the only reason their strategy works is because it is hard to fuck it up with Pokemon.

powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#82307: Nov 1st 2015 at 5:43:57 PM

I still don't get why Namco didn't put a Ms. Pac Man alt since they developed Sm4sh.

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Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#82308: Nov 1st 2015 at 5:48:16 PM

As well, mittens will only get you so far.

Also, odd to see Sonic doesn't go the FE route, getting the palettes of other characters of his franchise.

powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#82309: Nov 1st 2015 at 5:50:03 PM

At least SEGA could have allowed a Metal Sonic alt for Sonic.

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#82310: Nov 1st 2015 at 5:50:45 PM

[up][up][up]Come to think of it, does Ms. Pac Man even have a trophy? You'd think she would considering her game's status.

edited 1st Nov '15 5:51:13 PM by BaffleBlend

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Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#82311: Nov 1st 2015 at 5:52:52 PM

Sonic turning into Metal Sonic (or getting a Metal Sonic texture) when grabbing a metal box would had been a delicious touch, although probably hard to pull off.

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MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
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#82313: Nov 1st 2015 at 5:58:59 PM

[up][up]I think that using Mecha Sonic from Sonic the Hedgehog 2 would be the more appropriate choice.

@Raichu: I don't think its size really matters all that much. I mean, if they just colored it like Raichu, then changed the ears and tail, I would find that perfectly acceptable.

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#82314: Nov 1st 2015 at 6:00:33 PM

[up][up]The sad part is, that's probably genuinely a factor.

Sakurai was probably like;

"Falcondorf complaints? I'm used to it. Goku requests? Kids will be kids. But I am not dealing with frivolous theft accusations."

edited 1st Nov '15 6:03:03 PM by BaffleBlend

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#82315: Nov 1st 2015 at 6:03:53 PM

[up]x2 Pikachu and Raichu have different body shapes and tail lengths, so that wouldn't work.

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#82316: Nov 1st 2015 at 6:07:53 PM

Also, I just remembered. We all know how people joke about that obscure Famicom game with the Monkey King whenever "Goku for Smash" comes up, while we know that probably wouldn't happen due to the sheer obscurity. After all, that's what locked Takamaru out.

But he could be a candidate with another niche, because that Famicom game's not the first time Nintendo's used the guy. In fact, Nintendo's use of the Monkey King predates Mr. Game & Watch by a year.

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#82317: Nov 1st 2015 at 6:10:31 PM

Again, hitboxes and character models only match up in the loosest definition. Raichu can have a longer tail without changing the moves.

Also, again, Smash Pikachu is inexplicably the same size as canon Raichu. A Raichu skin would be normal sized compared to the freakishly big Pikachu default.

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#82318: Nov 1st 2015 at 6:12:13 PM

[up]You're overexaggerating the Hitbox Dissonance in this series. There was a case where it was that bad — Meta Knight when 4 was first released — and it drove everyone nuts. None of his attacks that looked like they should have hit did.

edited 1st Nov '15 6:12:57 PM by BaffleBlend

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#82319: Nov 1st 2015 at 6:16:42 PM

Little Mac's punches shouldn't have anywhere near the range they do if going by model.

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#82320: Nov 1st 2015 at 6:17:28 PM

Melee is a 3D game.

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#82321: Nov 1st 2015 at 6:18:59 PM

There's a big difference between hitboxes that are larger than they appear and those that are smaller than they appear. The latter is much more stupid because it's easier to see, much more misleading, and harder to justify.

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#82322: Nov 1st 2015 at 6:19:56 PM

Also, 4 Samus and Mewtwo are considered the two worst characters in the game for a reason.

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#82323: Nov 1st 2015 at 6:22:16 PM

I scale fighters on how much I like them.

Mewtwo is S tier.

Samus is A tier.

Greninja is B TIER.

And Lucario is F tier.

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#82324: Nov 1st 2015 at 6:23:39 PM

Here's an idea: just shorten Raichu's tail a little. It's not like the games never take any creative liberties with proportions.

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#82325: Nov 1st 2015 at 6:25:00 PM

Why are you fighting so hard for Raichu, anyway? Hell, Pikachu's not even relevant anymore. I have to actively remind myself that he's in the game.

At least Jigglypuff has Joke Character value.

edited 1st Nov '15 6:25:49 PM by BaffleBlend

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