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powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The crabby fussbudget
#82201: Nov 1st 2015 at 9:02:35 AM

At least we're not the Sonic fandom, because we can actually agree on things.

Though I've never understood why people hate clone characters. I usually just go with "character I like is in the game, I don't care if they're a clone".

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Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#82202: Nov 1st 2015 at 9:20:21 AM

It's wasted potential, basically.

And it doesn't help that, often, there ends up being a universally-better choice between a character and their clone, and thus the roster isn't really expanded so much as padded- If, between two similar characters, one is preferred in virtually all circumstances, why use the other at all?

I sure said that!
MEKristian Since: Nov, 2009
#82203: Nov 1st 2015 at 9:22:10 AM

Because they like the character? Haven't we been over this?

strawberryflavored Since: Sep, 2010
#82204: Nov 1st 2015 at 9:50:23 AM

The issue has been argued to death, yes.

NoLimit Since: Oct, 2009
#82205: Nov 1st 2015 at 9:53:00 AM

Reminds me of a conversation I once had with a friend...

"Why do you play Lucina? I've seen your Marth and you know how to space with him. He's naturally better than her."

"Because I don't swing that way. tongue"

Ninety Absolutely no relation to NLK from Land of Quakes and Hills Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
Absolutely no relation to NLK
#82206: Nov 1st 2015 at 10:24:04 AM

I do wish Lucina was her own character, though. And, y'know, not shit.

Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.
randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#82207: Nov 1st 2015 at 10:24:46 AM

She's terrible.

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NoLimit Since: Oct, 2009
#82208: Nov 1st 2015 at 10:27:05 AM

Hmm, those Lucina victories are all the sweeter... tongue

Demonfly birdie fairy Since: Jul, 2012
birdie fairy
#82209: Nov 1st 2015 at 10:27:44 AM

Against other Lucinas, sure

"Tell them to shut up and have some faith in me." - dead flashback guy
NoLimit Since: Oct, 2009
#82210: Nov 1st 2015 at 10:29:19 AM

Okay, thanks for letting me know this thread isn't gonna respect other people. Bye.

kablammin45 Catch my shiny metal birb! from Misty Brook (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Catch my shiny metal birb!
#82211: Nov 1st 2015 at 11:02:38 AM

[up][up] Good grief man, that was kinda rude. He/She could actually be pretty good with Lucina.

I don't hate Lucina, but I think prefer Marth over her.

I kinda wonder, is there anyone on here who actively uses Lucina?

edited 1st Nov '15 11:05:52 AM by kablammin45

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mrstack345 Paranormal Activity VII from Subspace Since: May, 2015 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Paranormal Activity VII
#82212: Nov 1st 2015 at 11:15:49 AM

  • raises hand*

Ain't got no time for a situational mechanic. tongue

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MEKristian Since: Nov, 2009
#82213: Nov 1st 2015 at 11:20:54 AM

I do, since I like Lucina and like playing as Lucina.

Demonfly birdie fairy Since: Jul, 2012
birdie fairy
#82214: Nov 1st 2015 at 11:21:27 AM

[up][up][up]I wasn't talking about the players themselves in the first place, nor would I have any reason to.

Though it was interesting to discover that overstating a character's competence is apparently fair game, yet the reverse isn't.

edited 1st Nov '15 11:24:50 AM by Demonfly

"Tell them to shut up and have some faith in me." - dead flashback guy
NesClassic Meh-meh!? from Flyover Country Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: In another castle
Meh-meh!?
#82215: Nov 1st 2015 at 11:27:20 AM

Better a clone than a costume, I'd say. (Barring rare exceptions, i.e. a Legacy Character or... the Koopalings, because Larry.)

I main Dr. Mario~
...except I get super mad when I play as him. I have more fun using characters I'm either bad with or characters that induce major shenanigans.

edited 1st Nov '15 11:28:29 AM by NesClassic

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kablammin45 Catch my shiny metal birb! from Misty Brook (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Catch my shiny metal birb!
#82216: Nov 1st 2015 at 12:02:07 PM

[up][up] Guess I just misinterpreted something along the way. I didn't mean to come off as rude to anyone, sorry.

I actually like playing with the Doc, too, even though I'm not really very good with him without giving him any perks. Though there was that one time I somehow used his Side-B right as a CPU Captain Falcon used his Up-B to grab the stage, causing him to fly the other way and get KO'd.

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powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The crabby fussbudget
#82217: Nov 1st 2015 at 12:13:07 PM

I use Lucina more than Marth, actually.

Again, both Lucina and Roy are in my primary mains.

Oh, this another thing that one of my friends tends to do. This time with Ike: He always fails to time Aether correctly to recover. Or he uses it when he needs a horizontal recovery like Quick Draw. Yeah, he's not smart at all. Me and another friend make fun of his lack of intelligence that makes him usually place last in Smash 4.

AAAAUUUUGGGHHHH!!!!
Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#82218: Nov 1st 2015 at 12:18:32 PM

The big issue with Lucina as she is now is that a Lucina at 100% capacity is only about as good as a Marth or Roy at 80% capacity at best. If you're good at using Lucina, there's not much practical reason not to shift over to Roy or Marth.

edited 1st Nov '15 12:18:46 PM by Pulse

I sure said that!
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#82219: Nov 1st 2015 at 12:22:12 PM

Yeah.

All I can hope for is that Smash 5 keeps her but luigifies her a bit. As it stands she's objectively inferior to Marth once you learn to distance.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The crabby fussbudget
#82220: Nov 1st 2015 at 12:24:16 PM

I'm not denying that, tier-wise, Lucina is worse than Marth. I just prefer using the Waifu over the Hero King.

Out of curiosity, how would you guys rank the playable Pokemon from favorite to least favorite?

My order is:

  1. Mewtwo
  2. Greninja
  3. Lucario
  4. Jigglypuff
  5. Charizard
  6. Pikachu

edited 1st Nov '15 12:25:18 PM by powerpuffbats

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Ninety Absolutely no relation to NLK from Land of Quakes and Hills Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
Absolutely no relation to NLK
#82221: Nov 1st 2015 at 12:30:06 PM

I don't really use many of the Pokemon. When I do, though, I prefer those that give you more control over their movement and attacks, if you get me. So Greninja is probably op, then Pikachu, Charizard, Lucario, Mewtwo and Jigglypuff. I don't like floatiness or lagginess.

Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#82222: Nov 1st 2015 at 12:32:11 PM

I like to use Greninja and Jigglypuff. Lucario's next, then Pikachu, Charizard, and Mootoo. I have to learn to use them more.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
Role Model
#82223: Nov 1st 2015 at 12:34:44 PM

Mewtwo > Charizard > Lucario. I don't use Pikachu or the Puff enough for ranking them to matter, though I'd probably put the 'chu first. I haven't played Greninja in Smash 4 to determine yet.

LinkToTheFuture A real bad hombre from somewhere completely different Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
A real bad hombre
#82224: Nov 1st 2015 at 12:35:02 PM

I like using Pikachu and The Puff, but not Charizard.

"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work." -Thomas Edison
Lightblade Since: Jan, 2001
#82225: Nov 1st 2015 at 12:38:58 PM

Pikachu was my main in the previous Smash games. Now he's tied with Shulk for that honor. I don't really play the other Pokémon too much.


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