There's some differences between the two spindashes, the Side-B one jumping higher, I think?
And the Down-B one hits multiple times when spinning along the ground, I think.
But nobody ever uses the down-b one since the side-b spindash combos better.
The lackluster moveset for Brawl was excusable by Sega giving the agreement on the last minute, but he was a shoe-in for Smash 4, so why not give him more new things than one move changed?
The Spin Charge requires you to mash the button to build power like in the original Sonic trilogy, with the Spin Dash being powered by holding the button. The Dash gives a little pop at the start, too.
If it were up to me, I'd have made Sonic's Up Special that Ring Toss/Light Speed Dash move from Battle, wherein he throws a ring that travels in an arc and dashes towards it on the second use, meaning he gets lots of height if he dashes after it immediately and lots of horizontal coverage if he waits, and made the Side Special the Boost from the Rush and Unleashed-onward games, with the Spin Dash being reassigned to Down Special and the Spin Charge just not being a thing.
I'm not a huge Sonic fan by any stretch but even I think they could do better with his special loadout in Smash.
edited 17th Oct '15 2:32:58 PM by Pulse
I sure said that!The difference that actually matters is that you can jump while charging the Side B.
...and the down b actually does hit multiple times per pass.
edited 17th Oct '15 2:38:51 PM by randomness4
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I suppose the best reasoning would be "we already have this character finished and no ones complaining, lets focus our efforts on new characters!"
I mean, the Grandfather Clause is why Ganondorf still is a Captain Falcon without most of Falcon's good points in Brawl and why he was doomed from the start in 4. Sakurai only makes broad changes to character's specials when it ruins them, like Mario.
What of Pit, then?
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I just wish people would stop saying that F.L.U.D.D. is worthless.
... Meanwhile, I still am trying to grasp what makes Falcondorf so much more important than Pichu or Melee Falco. He's a niche character and even the tiny handful of people who like to play as him mostly seem to think it should be someone else using it.
And before someone says it- Yeah, he's strong, but that doesn't mean anything when literally everyone else is more mobile than him and he leaves himself wide open at all times. It doesn't matter if every fourth swing is a home run, because by then you've got three strikes.
edited 17th Oct '15 4:19:03 PM by Pulse
I sure said that!...You'd have to be going pretty far out of your way to make his current Side-B any more different from Brawl's than it already is, but that's beside the point.
One gets a complete overhaul in all but one of his Specials when he was relatively okay as he was, while another is stuck with three different uninspired variations of each other. Seeing how they've both been in this series for the same timespan, it's pretty clear there's no hard rule for anything like this.
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Brawl's Ganondorf never came off to me as anything resembling popular.
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Because he's fun. But you don't expect to win with him (and at any rate, the gap in character viability is relatively close in 4). As for Lucina, she's Marth but worse, and Marth is mid-low in this game already. The only reason to play Lucina is if you're Nairo and dicking on someone.
Yeah, I've seen that. Good match, but it's a) one example, b) a small tournament, c) Ryo, who's a pretty damn good player, and d) him screwing around, as seen with him picking various low tiers (until he gets serious and pulls out his main at the end). Don't get me wrong, I love Ganon, but he's not a very good character in SSB 4.
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One of them is effected by slopes...never mind, both of them go faster down slopes in Smash 4.
edited 17th Oct '15 12:42:49 PM by randomness4
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