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Karxrida from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
#81001: Oct 2nd 2015 at 6:00:02 PM

If Sakurai didn't want version differences, leading to the Climbers being axed, I highly doubt region-exclusive characters will be a thing. Besides, it'd fuck with random Wi-Fi matches.

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#81002: Oct 2nd 2015 at 6:01:09 PM

Not region-exclusive. Characters added because they're popular in one certain region. They'd still be in every version of the game.

Sorry if I didn't make that clear.

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powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#81003: Oct 2nd 2015 at 6:03:28 PM

[up]That's what I got. I didn't think region-exclusive, I was thinking of characters based on popularity in regions like you were.

Baffle: Yeah, but one of the main issues was the horrible screen crunch. Alongside the abysmal frame rate and the out of whack physics.

edited 2nd Oct '15 6:04:01 PM by powerpuffbats

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FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
feeling blue
#81004: Oct 2nd 2015 at 6:44:10 PM

Oh my goodness I made a tier list.

Order within tiers doesn't matter by the way. This is just my initial impressions from this patch.

LinkToTheFuture A real bad hombre from somewhere completely different Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#81005: Oct 2nd 2015 at 6:48:00 PM

Sanic's S tier now?

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powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#81006: Oct 2nd 2015 at 6:48:48 PM

[up][up]this is actually a reverse of Melee where Dr. Mario was higher tier than Mario himself back in Melee, now all clones are lower on the tier list than their "parent" character. Though I still find it sad that my main Waifu (Lucina) is still low-tier.

Though I still kick ass with Lucina.

edited 2nd Oct '15 6:58:34 PM by powerpuffbats

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#81007: Oct 2nd 2015 at 6:49:10 PM

You feel Luigi's nerf hit him that bad?

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#81008: Oct 2nd 2015 at 6:54:18 PM

I think Luigi just lost a good portion of the match-ups that made him good and now Sheik invalidates him by existing

LinkToTheFuture A real bad hombre from somewhere completely different Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
A real bad hombre
#81009: Oct 2nd 2015 at 6:59:06 PM

I don't really understand. Why is Sonic S tier now?

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#81010: Oct 2nd 2015 at 6:59:09 PM

Tiers mean crap when you're not in competitive play, though.

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Slouch Hey from Here 'n' there Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Gonna take a lot to drag me away from you
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#81011: Oct 2nd 2015 at 7:00:25 PM

You forgot to put Dedede in S+ Tier.

[down]Just kidding, just kidding

edited 2nd Oct '15 7:04:45 PM by Slouch

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#81012: Oct 2nd 2015 at 7:01:31 PM

[up] Nah, I'm pretty sure on my placement of him tongue

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#81013: Oct 2nd 2015 at 7:04:20 PM

The top three make me very happy, but the bottom two make me very sad.

Is there anyone you'd consider outright nonviable in competitive?

FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#81014: Oct 2nd 2015 at 7:07:14 PM

Those in C tier are those "niche" characters and those in D are those I'd consider unviable.

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#81015: Oct 2nd 2015 at 7:11:20 PM

I'm glad that it's only 5 characters, but I still wish the game could be balanced where everyone was viable. Also, the Mighty Glacier type seems to get screwed in a lot of game series...

Is there anything about those five that you'd buff? I know I'd already made suggestions for Mewtwo, Zelda and Ganondorf.

Slouch Hey from Here 'n' there Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Gonna take a lot to drag me away from you
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#81016: Oct 2nd 2015 at 7:12:19 PM

Joking aside, I do think DDD Tier is a little too low for Dedede. Even though he has major flaws I think that he has enough strengths to belong in low C at least.

edited 2nd Oct '15 7:15:47 PM by Slouch

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#81017: Oct 2nd 2015 at 7:12:44 PM

Marth and Pit in B tier. I approve. Even if Samus, another new main, is in D tier.

Anyway, hiya! I know I've had next to zero presence here.

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#81018: Oct 2nd 2015 at 7:18:00 PM

[up][up] The problem is that C is the "niche" tier, what is Dedede's niche? I went looking at Dedede threads and from what I saw Dedede doesn't win any match-ups and loses against everyone in A tier and above.

edited 2nd Oct '15 7:18:13 PM by FullMoon

Slouch Hey from Here 'n' there Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Gonna take a lot to drag me away from you
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#81019: Oct 2nd 2015 at 7:21:03 PM

He does have some favourable matchups (DK springs to mind), but... yeah, you're probably right. I just don't want to believe that my favourite stinks. tongue

edited 2nd Oct '15 7:27:18 PM by Slouch

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#81020: Oct 2nd 2015 at 7:24:42 PM

Whoa, Marth is just about on the same terms as Roy?

I...did not expect that.

edited 2nd Oct '15 7:25:23 PM by BurntMario

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#81021: Oct 2nd 2015 at 7:26:09 PM

[up][up] I mean some optimism is good, I was optimist about Greninja after the bunch of nerfs he got and it paid off tongue

[up]

Order within tiers doesn't matter by the way

I honestly don't know which one is better.

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#81022: Oct 2nd 2015 at 7:26:47 PM

My main's not even on there (though for all intents and purposes Dark Pit is another eight costumes for Pit).

On an unrelated note, I should try and get back into Smash someday. If nothing else I need to pick up all the new DLC (even if I'm not going to use it all; Ryu sounds way too complicated for my simple brain to handle).

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#81023: Oct 2nd 2015 at 7:27:37 PM

[up][up] I know. I quickly edited once I saw that I missed your point about order not mattering.

edited 2nd Oct '15 7:27:51 PM by BurntMario

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#81024: Oct 2nd 2015 at 7:30:18 PM

Ah yeah I forgot to mention that I didn't place Dark Pit there because for all intents and purposes he's in the same position as Pit

Miis aren't there because I don't know a thing about them.

Slouch Hey from Here 'n' there Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Gonna take a lot to drag me away from you
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#81025: Oct 2nd 2015 at 7:37:06 PM

Here's a challenge: Take the protagonist from a movie, TV show or book you watched or read recently and give them a rudimentary Smash Bros moveset.

edited 2nd Oct '15 9:26:50 PM by Slouch


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