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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#80476: Sep 25th 2015 at 5:45:32 PM

Rock Smash is amazing on bosses. It's how I first cleared Boss Battles back in Brawl.

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WaterMasterGali92 Hello again! from Remnant Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
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#80477: Sep 25th 2015 at 5:48:30 PM

I used Fox thanks to his dope ass reflector.

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MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
Mr. Clueless
#80478: Sep 25th 2015 at 5:50:34 PM

Rock Smash shatters into a lot of fragments. Against most opponents, this doesn't matter at all, but bosses are huge and don't flinch. Thus, all the fragments hit and the boss takes immense damage.

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FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
feeling blue
#80479: Sep 25th 2015 at 5:52:08 PM

I used Lucas for Brawl's Boss Battles because yay free healing.

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#80480: Sep 25th 2015 at 5:54:39 PM

Rock Smash also has Super Armor. Still, landing reverse Warlock Punches on Master Core's different parts is awesome.

Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#80481: Sep 25th 2015 at 5:55:39 PM

I second the dope reflector. Fox could kill Meta Ridley during his first attack with a well timed reflector.

edited 25th Sep '15 5:55:51 PM by Zeromaeus

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#80482: Sep 25th 2015 at 5:56:01 PM

Toon Link's d-air was also a boss killer in Brawl, even Sakurai said he liked to spam it on bosses.

It doesn't bounce anymore though.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#80483: Sep 25th 2015 at 5:57:00 PM

That's the only bad thing about him to me.

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powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The crabby fussbudget
#80484: Sep 25th 2015 at 5:58:34 PM

Speaking of Toon Link:

Is there any character in 4 that you always have to face when your friends are playing?

Both Link and Toon Link I have to face when two of my friends are over. It gets annoying to have to see those two whenever they play.

AAAAUUUUGGGHHHH!!!!
WaterMasterGali92 Hello again! from Remnant Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
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#80485: Sep 25th 2015 at 6:00:25 PM

My friends all hate Lucina because I play as her all the time.

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Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#80486: Sep 25th 2015 at 6:01:58 PM

One of my friends always plays as Little Mac for the first four or five matches. It's all well and good, though. He plays him for fun. He's actually not terribly good as him.

WaterMasterGali92 Hello again! from Remnant Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
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#80487: Sep 25th 2015 at 6:11:47 PM

My brother is the hardest Mac player I know. I can't beat him most times.

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Folt Warlock Necromancer from Hollow Bastion! >=D Since: Jun, 2010
Warlock Necromancer
#80488: Sep 25th 2015 at 6:24:04 PM

Lucina couldn't ever NOT be relevant. She's arguably the best thing in Awakening in terms of new characters. She has a unique personality and look all her own. If anything, she's just as good a rep as Robin.

Except when the new Fire Emblems and new games & series come around and she faces competition from the now most relevant characters. Meanwhile, Robin's moveset and concept is pretty damn unique, even among similiar characters, that it becomes hard to justify not having him around to rep Fire Emblem.

Like, seriously, a lot of the comments I've heard from you (and a couple others) in terms of why Lucina should be in and diverge from Marth give me flashbacks to why Sakurai ultimately scrapped Chrom. A decloned Lucina would be in the same boat.

As a clone, sure she could use some work. But look at it this way. Would we have Ganon or Falco for that matter if all people saw was their movesets and 'relevancy'? No. These characters became popular BECAUSE of their clone status.

I'm pretty sure Ganondorf got popular because he was in the best videogame of all time and was a damn fine villain as well. And also because Ganondorf technically already existed since the very first Zelda.

Also, Zelda is a bigger series than Fire Emblem. Ganondorf would have been a no-brainer for future Smash games regardless of whether or not he'd show up in Melee because he's able to stay relevant without relying on Smash, simply because he's the most iconic villain of the franchise and a reoccuring character within it as well.

Falco meanwhile made it in at a point where his series was at a high point. After that, he's still one of the most recognizable characters from that franchise, along with Wolf, and benefits from being in a series that 1. isn't dead. 2. is a stable, reocurring character within that series who does not need to rely on Smash to stay relevant. Would Lucina have made as many appearances as she did if she wasn't featured in Smash? I doubt it.

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Ninety Absolutely no relation to NLK from Land of Quakes and Hills Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
Absolutely no relation to NLK
#80489: Sep 25th 2015 at 6:26:19 PM

I've only ever played a single Zelda game and it was one Ganondorf was barely in, but I love the hell out of SSB Ganondorf because he's so much fun to play.

Anyway keep Lucina and make her useful kthxbai

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Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#80490: Sep 25th 2015 at 6:27:05 PM

If not for Smash, Lucina would have, I think, 1 less appearance (Codename STEAM), due to Amiibos. I would say with complete confidence that she'd still be in Fates, alongside all the other cameos.

edited 25th Sep '15 6:27:23 PM by Enlong

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Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#80491: Sep 25th 2015 at 6:30:00 PM

Also, Fire Emblem has that tiny detail of lacking recurring characters for the most part. So does Zelda to a degree, hence why it is somewhat underrepresented (c'mon, give us Impa, the remaining recurring character).

Fire Emblem, well... yeah. You get dozens of units per game, and you may see some of those in a direct sequel, and that's it. Oh, and Anna will sell you stuff no matter the game, and she seems to be turning into a recurring unit, so there's that.

Konkfan7 Konknitive Dissonance from Roselle Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Konknitive Dissonance
#80492: Sep 25th 2015 at 6:41:27 PM

I like to think of Anna as the unofficial mascot, and I think she deserves a spot in Smash.

LinkToTheFuture A real bad hombre from somewhere completely different Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
A real bad hombre
#80493: Sep 25th 2015 at 6:55:30 PM

I've noticed that I have a hard time "reading" opponents. It's pretty frustrating.

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WaterMasterGali92 Hello again! from Remnant Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
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#80494: Sep 25th 2015 at 7:01:59 PM

What competition? Lucina's basically a female Marth. She's recognizable (to a degree) when compared to Ike and Robin and even then she still has fans despite having a few appearances.

Who's to say she won't have more?

As far as Star Fox not being dead, I had to stop laughing so I could get up off the floor.

It's BECAUSE of Smash and Star Fox 64 that Fox and Falco and them are even relevant. In fact, when was the last Star Fox game that WASN'T a re-release? It's only this year that we're getting Star Fox Zero.

Tell me more jokes. You're pretty damn funny.

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Ninety Absolutely no relation to NLK from Land of Quakes and Hills Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
Absolutely no relation to NLK
#80495: Sep 25th 2015 at 7:05:47 PM

Hey, I wanna test something. Watermaster, what's your opinion on the concept of "waifu"? Just out of curiosity.

Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.
Sterok Since: Apr, 2012
#80496: Sep 25th 2015 at 7:08:09 PM

We're not getting Star Fox Zero this year.

Fire Emblem may be bigger than Star Fox at the moment (Awakening sold 1.8 million, Fates will clear 1 million with no problem, Zero has no chance of selling well), but independent of Smash Fox, Falco, and Wolf are still decently iconic characters since Star Fox 64 alone makes them famous. The best selling Fire Emblem took it out of niche status. The best selling Star Fox kept the series famous for decades and has become a small, but important part of gaming history. The two series are not comparable at all.

WaterMasterGali92 Hello again! from Remnant Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
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#80497: Sep 25th 2015 at 7:18:32 PM

[up][up] I read somewhere that it meant characters who people really really like and might even be in love with as crazy as that sounds. I really like Lucina so I don't see a problem with referring to her as such, although I do get that some people might find me saying that creepy so I mostly just keep it to myself or express it somewhere where I won't get made fun of. Honestly, I do know that it is unhealthy to be obsessed with things like certain characters and what not so I try and socialize with other people so I don't start seeing things.

This doesn't mean that I don't have my favorites list of characters, though.

Why do you ask?

[up] Exactly, which is why I said he was funny.

edited 25th Sep '15 7:19:35 PM by WaterMasterGali92

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Daydre That's just how it is on this bitch of an earth from in my house Since: Jun, 2014 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#80498: Sep 25th 2015 at 7:27:34 PM

I heard somewhere that making a good argument involves acknowledging your opponent's points and countering with your own, rather than dismissing them outright...

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WaterMasterGali92 Hello again! from Remnant Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
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#80499: Sep 25th 2015 at 7:33:25 PM

[up] Yeah. But then people got all arrogant and tried to pass their subjective opinions as fact and it just escalated from there.

Stupid internet, ruining good debates.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#80500: Sep 25th 2015 at 7:34:06 PM

You'd only dismiss them if they're wrong or irrelevant.

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