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powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The crabby fussbudget
#80176: Sep 22nd 2015 at 4:56:25 PM

[up]Yeah, I was including being completely original. I dislike the sentiment that Wolf is a clone purely because of him having similar specials to Fox.

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MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
Mr. Clueless
#80177: Sep 22nd 2015 at 5:05:35 PM

Semi-clone, at least. Specials are the first thing people care about, and they aren't exactly minor details.

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Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#80178: Sep 22nd 2015 at 5:09:13 PM

And they certainly influence how a character plays, but normals comprise the bulk of a moveset, and very much determnines what they do and how they play.

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MEKristian Since: Nov, 2009
#80179: Sep 22nd 2015 at 5:16:08 PM

Jumping back a bit, if Krystal did get into the game, I'd personally want some happy medium between her Adventures outfit and her later space outfits, somehow, like how Roy incorporates a bit of his Awakening DLC design.

BaffleBlend Hey there! Having fun? from Somewhere Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: LET'S HAVE A ZILLION BABIES
Hey there! Having fun?
#80180: Sep 22nd 2015 at 5:17:22 PM

I can vouch that they're the only thing a lot of kids care about.

When I was little, I ONLY used specials, because they were "special" and I thought "special" meant "better".

As for Krystal, I don't really think she's likely because despite her popularity here, the Japanese fanbase H A T E S her from what I hear.

edited 22nd Sep '15 5:19:35 PM by BaffleBlend

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BlitzTrain Since: Apr, 2014
#80181: Sep 22nd 2015 at 5:19:49 PM

I always figured people focused on specials when they discussed how characters because they were the ones that were most easily recognized for people who don't actually play them or memorize the entire cast's moveset or something.

Of course you still have moves like Captain Falcon's 'knee of justice' that stand out now and then, but it takes more than a couple of those to make good comparisons.

MEKristian Since: Nov, 2009
#80182: Sep 22nd 2015 at 5:26:20 PM

Of course they hate Krystal in Japan, she's a Western creation that gets in the way of things.

MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
Mr. Clueless
#80183: Sep 22nd 2015 at 5:40:49 PM

@Baffle: At least Tingle will never get in.

@Blitz: And yet no one remembers Zelda's Lightning Legs. Probably because it's more difficult to land than the Knee Smash (which is saying something).

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FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#80184: Sep 22nd 2015 at 5:46:45 PM

I thought Zelda's Lightning Kicks and transformation were all she had going for her in most games.

edited 22nd Sep '15 5:46:55 PM by FullMoon

FlamingoKai a.k.a. Malco from Tolbi Since: Jan, 2012
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#80185: Sep 22nd 2015 at 7:32:55 PM

I am Competitive 2. Even if I don't play this game anymore, this applies to most fighters. I'm just used to the tournament rules, but not enough to compete.

[up] Y'mean the "Zelda's best special move is down-special" joke? (Because prior to Smash 4 turns her into Sheik.)

edited 22nd Sep '15 7:33:19 PM by FlamingoKai

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FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
FlamingoKai a.k.a. Malco from Tolbi Since: Jan, 2012
a.k.a. Malco
#80187: Sep 22nd 2015 at 7:49:40 PM

Well as for the Lightning Kick, Falcon's knee of death is practically the same thing but on a better character so why would anyone even bother with Zelda...

Among other characters I think Zelda's moveset needs a rework. A League of Legends-style rework. They made the teleport broken good and they fixed Zelda's ledge problem but it just wasn't enough.

edited 22nd Sep '15 7:49:58 PM by FlamingoKai

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IceAnt573 Forever not amused. Since: May, 2015
Forever not amused.
#80188: Sep 22nd 2015 at 9:46:24 PM

She does not need two lightning kicks. Seriously, like so many characters have a safe, fast, and high damaging back air while Zelda has the same thing as her forward air.

Demonfly birdie fairy Since: Jul, 2012
birdie fairy
#80189: Sep 22nd 2015 at 9:54:03 PM

but changing it would alienate fans of Zelda

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#80190: Sep 23rd 2015 at 12:07:53 AM

Yeah it would, don't do that!

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Hungryguy I am a Rad Reptile. from inside a cheese wheel Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#80191: Sep 23rd 2015 at 6:06:10 AM

So I'm wondering if anyone here has more currently used mains than me. Not sure if I can call all of them "mains," but they are: Bowser, Bowser Jr., Wario, Donkey Kong, Ganondorf, Greninja, Little Mac, Falco, Dr. Mario, Falco, Lucas, Charizard, Dedede, Roy, Mewtwo, Ryu, Mega Man, and Duck Hunt. So... 18.

edited 23rd Sep '15 6:07:08 AM by Hungryguy

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powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The crabby fussbudget
#80192: Sep 23rd 2015 at 6:13:13 AM

Let's see:

Ryu, Roy, Mega Man, Fox, Captain Falcon, Lucina, Pit, Dark Pit, Shulk, Mewtwo, Lucas, Sonic, Falco, Wario, Luigi, Link, Mii Brawler, Mii Swordfighter, and Mii Gunner and Ganondorf.

20

[up]You list Falco twice, bud

edited 23rd Sep '15 6:15:12 AM by powerpuffbats

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Ninety Absolutely no relation to NLK from Land of Quakes and Hills Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
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#80193: Sep 23rd 2015 at 6:16:10 AM

Uh... Robin, Ganon, Ike on a good day.

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#80194: Sep 23rd 2015 at 6:17:58 AM

I've got about eleven, though i enjoy playing most of the characters and can play all of them competitively (with varying success).

edited 23rd Sep '15 6:18:46 AM by EpicBleye

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Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#80195: Sep 23rd 2015 at 6:26:19 AM

but changing it would alienate fans of Zelda
The needs of the many outweigh the wants of the few.

Same goes for Ganon but we all knew that already

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FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#80196: Sep 23rd 2015 at 6:56:42 AM

I mean Zelda's B-Air is fast and highly damaging, I think what needs to change is her F-Air instead, it's not even the same as B-Air, it's weaker.

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#80197: Sep 23rd 2015 at 8:20:02 AM

Villager, Yoshi, Ness, Roy, Bowser Jr/Koopalings, Pac Man, Lucario, Mewtwo, Roy, Ryu, Robin, and Olimar/Alph all all my most frequently used characters.

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Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#80198: Sep 23rd 2015 at 8:50:04 AM

I feel like I'm only particularly good with R.O.B. and Duck Hunt, but I think I'm okay-ish with everyone but Pikachu.

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EpicBleye drunk bunny from her bed being very eepy Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
drunk bunny
#80199: Sep 23rd 2015 at 8:54:03 AM

well I'm great as Pikachu so I win.

Ironically, Pikachu is one of my lesser used characters despite the fact that I'm the best as Pika and he's my main. (The reason being is because my friends are literally no challenge if I use Pikachu, and to a lesser extent, Roy and Toon Link.) (Well except for one friend.) (I have trouble beating my one friend sometimes.)

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Rivux same old me from [a jump to the sky turns to a rider kick] Since: Aug, 2010
same old me
#80200: Sep 23rd 2015 at 9:00:05 AM

what do i get if one of my mains is the random button

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