I'm convinced that the Grandfather Clause is too strong an element for this series to do something like demote someone from playable to a costume. You either stay in the game as a wholly separate character on the character select screen, or you don't stay in the game.
It's the same way as the other things that only really stay in Smash Bros. because it's Smash Bros., like Jiggz still being in the game despite her in-game/anime presence being severely limited as of late (save for The Great Fairy Conversion of X/Y), or clones and semi-clones keeping the same moves even when they are no longer last-minute additions, and Marth and Roy still speaking Japanese.
The New Age of Awesome is here! Not even the sky is the limit!I still do not believe it's entirely out of the realm of possibility for Lucina to get Luigified. It's pretty documented that Sakurai changes his mind on a couple of things (like Villager fitting in Smash for example). Also, everything is out the window if Smash 5 gets a new director and who knows what that person's way of thinking is.
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Dedede is not necessarily evil, but he does create some of the conflicts, some out of his own selfishness, that Kirby needs to stop. That alone means he does fall into the role of the bad guy who needs to be stopped sometimes.
Likely not too dissimiliar to Sakurai's way of thinking.
edited 3rd Sep '15 3:54:36 PM by Folt
Fantastic Supreme Überkaiser Emperor Folt of The Infinity and Beyond" ... "The First"!I think the reason Sakurai relies on the Grandfather Clause so much is because he knows some group of people somewhere is gonna be marching up to his house with torches and pitchforks if he so much as changes the length of Wario's mustache or something. (That's probably why Ganondorf is still "Falcondorf", because Sakurai probably knows that interpretation of Ganondorf would be sorely missed by people who liked that moveset.)
@villains in Smash: Hey, if it turns out K. Rool is in Smash after all (despite the costume), that's a start.
edited 3rd Sep '15 4:18:27 PM by kablammin45
"I'm glad I don't wear shoes or else I'd have to always get shoes in two different sizes. ...If you know, you know!"Greninja being in the villains Conquest is probably a bit of a Dub-Induced Plot Hole on our end, considering that in Japan, Dark-Types are referred to as Aku/Evil-Types.
The point of Robin's projectiles isn't to rack up damage, generally. Thunder is a get-off-of-me attack, Elthunder is good for punishing rolls and creating distance, Arcthunder is incredible for leading into all sorts of combos, and Thoron is decent at killing and overwhelming enemy projectiles. But generally his projectiles aren't just fire-and-forget stuff to increase percents.
Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.Meanwhile Pokemon Trainer gets two/thirds of his moveset ripped out of his guts because who cares.
I can't really imagine that anybody in charge of tourneys would be willing to burn time on complex bans and accommodations just so two slots out of ~50 might be used more.
"Tell them to shut up and have some faith in me." - dead flashback guyFalcondorf has been a thing since 2001. Pokemon Trainer was quite niche, and very limiting with the stamina mechanic. It was FORCED.
Ivysaur and Squirtle would make decent DLC, but, all in all, what they had going for them was being part of Pokemon Trainer's lineup. Ivysaur is mechanically unusual, true, but neither it nor Squirtle have Charizard's status to survive past the gimmick. Remember that the Ice Climbers were axed out after 13 years as well because of their gimmick being unsustainable.
The basic complication is that it's easier (read: less of a headache for TOs to deal with) to allow the Mii Fighters to use their customs because they don't require the custom switch to be on to use their movesets, while Palutena does (which opens up questions like "If she can use her customs, why can't Mario? The switch is on right?" and many more).
This is why I wish Palutena was treated the same as the Mii fighters as far as Customs go. Like, they could have made Palutena unavailable until you gave her a moveset to use, or made her unlockable until you created a custom fighter (Mii or otherwise).
edited 3rd Sep '15 6:29:50 PM by Customer

Mewtwo's not a villain so much as an antagonist, and even then it pulled a Heel–Face Turn.
Also apparently Greninja is considered a villain based off of one of the Global Smash competitions (or whatever they're called) from a while back that had to do with villains.
edited 3rd Sep '15 3:37:11 PM by Karxrida