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wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#78976: Aug 29th 2015 at 10:02:04 PM

Yeah, that's where I got the idea from. I'd probably implement it in a limited sense, if at all.

I'm actually happiest with my Pressure idea, since that was my most original one, brings up his in game ability, and works to counter his weaknesses somewhat, if indirectly. After that, the faster dash idea, then tether recovery, then launcher.

FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
feeling blue
#78977: Aug 29th 2015 at 10:22:27 PM

To be honest, you seem to be incredibly humble when it comes to your accomplishments in Smash, Moon. I think that's a good trait to have though, especially in a varied environment like Smash. Not surprised you've gotten at least some fame by now.

Congrats on your tournament victory, Moon.

I don't really have much in the way of achievements in this game, the closest I had was my position as the best Greninja player in Anther's Ladder which is... a bit dubious since Greninja is a rather rare character. I'm still beating myself up for messing up so bad at fighting that Dedede player, heh.

Thanks though!

NEO from Qrrbrbirlbel Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
#78978: Aug 29th 2015 at 10:23:57 PM

It was a Dedede. Nobody knows how to fight Dededes.

(I'd say it was his accomplishment more than your mistakes... but then again, the match was yours and you certainly paid more attention than me)

edited 29th Aug '15 10:29:11 PM by NEO

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FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
feeling blue
#78979: Aug 29th 2015 at 11:01:49 PM

I kept trying to charge Up-Smashes and stuff while I knew that it was only going to result in me getting B-Aired. I guess it was just me getting nervous or fatigue started to kick in.

I did spend the whole day without eating anything until I got back home.

Folt Warlock Necromancer from Hollow Bastion! >=D Since: Jun, 2010
Warlock Necromancer
#78980: Aug 30th 2015 at 3:57:13 AM

As for that Mewtwo video, I get the disjointed hitbox. Some of that stuff was made to look worse than it was (of course you're not going to hit a grounded opponent with an U+Air), but the thing with the throw was inexcusable.

I figure the real problem with Mewtwo would be his floaty hugeness. Maybe if he could hover horizontally after you use his Up+B if you held it down...

It's not that you're not hitting a grounded opponent with an uair: It's that the animation fools the player into thinking it should hit when in reality it does not, so you get weird stuff like Mewtwo's tail passing through the opponent as if he were a ghost.

Fantastic Supreme Überkaiser Emperor Folt of The Infinity and Beyond" ... "The First"!
HeavyDDR Who's Vergo-san. from Central Texas Since: Jul, 2009
Who's Vergo-san.
#78981: Aug 30th 2015 at 4:49:49 AM

(rap noises) (me cheering "Dedede" in the distance)

I'm pretty sure the concept of Law having limits was a translation error. -Wanderlustwarrior
NEO from Qrrbrbirlbel Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
#78982: Aug 30th 2015 at 8:40:47 AM

I did spend the whole day without eating anything until I got back home.

Next time follow my example and bring peanuts and water. tonguetonguetongue

No regret shall pass over the threshold!
wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#78983: Aug 30th 2015 at 8:51:46 AM

Is this somewhat accurate? Why are Samus, Zelda and Palutena so low? What about Robin and WFT? Didn't Bowser dominate at the start of the game? And I'm curious about Charizard's low placement, too. On the other hand, I'm happy for Sheik and ZSS.

It still bugs me that Ice Climbers won't work, but Rosalina and Luma will.

powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The crabby fussbudget
#78984: Aug 30th 2015 at 8:52:31 AM

I kinda wish I could compete in tournaments, but I think I'll get my ass kicked if I did.

I mean outside of Tourney mode (even then, my friend still kicked my ass when we did a Melee tournament to honor Iwata).

I hate how Tournament mode is online only.

AAAAUUUUGGGHHHH!!!!
MEKristian Since: Nov, 2009
#78985: Aug 30th 2015 at 9:00:11 AM

Ice Climbers works entirely differently on a technical level than Rosalina and Luma.

Folt Warlock Necromancer from Hollow Bastion! >=D Since: Jun, 2010
Warlock Necromancer
#78986: Aug 30th 2015 at 9:39:00 AM

[up][up][up] That one's old and I believe is before patch 1.1.0.

It's also not a SmashBoards creation, but it is an alright list.

Regardless, Mewtwo, Samus, and Zelda are definitely low tiers in this game.

Robin might climb up some spots now that his d-throw has been reworked and his Thunder special being buffed overall (less lag on Arcthunder f.ex. and Elthunder was buffed as well). As might Wii Fit Trainer since she also received some buffs.

(Generally, Wii Fit Trainer was that low because she has some of the problems Mewtwo had in terms of hitboxes that don't hit exactly where you expect them to hit and having surprisingly little range on her attacks)

Fantastic Supreme Überkaiser Emperor Folt of The Infinity and Beyond" ... "The First"!
Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#78987: Aug 30th 2015 at 9:40:59 AM

I'm thinking, given that this game is now known to receive regular balance patches, until support ends all tier lists really, really need a "*tentative" on them.

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NEO from Qrrbrbirlbel Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
#78988: Aug 30th 2015 at 9:44:51 AM

I stopped caring about tier lists long ago. Matchups are more relevant though.

No regret shall pass over the threshold!
Folt Warlock Necromancer from Hollow Bastion! >=D Since: Jun, 2010
Warlock Necromancer
#78989: Aug 30th 2015 at 9:48:04 AM

[up][up] To be honest, the tier lists can also be seen as a look into how the characters performed or are expected to perform before and after the patches which the tier list is relevant to.

edited 30th Aug '15 9:48:15 AM by Folt

Fantastic Supreme Überkaiser Emperor Folt of The Infinity and Beyond" ... "The First"!
Folt Warlock Necromancer from Hollow Bastion! >=D Since: Jun, 2010
Warlock Necromancer
#78990: Aug 30th 2015 at 10:08:38 AM

Oh, I also went through the community patch notes and found out that there's a universal hit lag decrease on attacks with a hitlag modifier higher than 1.0.

Among other things, it means things like Marth's tippers, Roy's base, and Ryu's attacks are now safer on shield than before.

Fantastic Supreme Überkaiser Emperor Folt of The Infinity and Beyond" ... "The First"!
FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
feeling blue
#78991: Aug 30th 2015 at 10:09:37 AM

That tier list is a community voted list. Which also means it's really bad.

ultimatepheer Since: Mar, 2011
#78992: Aug 30th 2015 at 10:28:22 AM

I thought tier lists were a measure of how easy it was for new players to get into and get effective with the character.

Ninety Absolutely no relation to NLK from Land of Quakes and Hills Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
Absolutely no relation to NLK
#78993: Aug 30th 2015 at 10:30:28 AM

Nope. They're typically a measure of how good, overall, each character is on a competitive (1v1) level. And Sheik is probably alone on S-tier.

Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.
Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#78994: Aug 30th 2015 at 10:40:34 AM

A tier list measures, at least theoretically, top-level play for each character and how viable they are as a result. Fox is at the top in Melee but demands pretty intensive mastery of clack-clack-clack to get optimal results from, for example.

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powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The crabby fussbudget
#78995: Aug 30th 2015 at 10:54:58 AM

Question:

Why does Link win or dominate every single popularity contest for SSB characters?

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Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#78997: Aug 30th 2015 at 11:07:36 AM

Also because Bishounen.

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Demonfly birdie fairy Since: Jul, 2012
birdie fairy
#78998: Aug 30th 2015 at 11:14:28 AM

Also because scrub char

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Ninety Absolutely no relation to NLK from Land of Quakes and Hills Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
Absolutely no relation to NLK
#78999: Aug 30th 2015 at 11:15:31 AM

Does he?

Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.
Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#79000: Aug 30th 2015 at 11:17:30 AM

[up][up] You're much better off soaking char than scrubbing it. Helps loosen all that burnt-on material.

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