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mrsunshinesprinkles Forever Gorgeous from Somewhere, crying Since: Jan, 2012
Forever Gorgeous
#78226: Aug 15th 2015 at 10:06:17 PM

This isn't a pro, MLG gaming tip, but don't think about it, I guess? Just focus on Smashing as much as possible, and at least one out of 5 shots will be a tipper.

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Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#78227: Aug 15th 2015 at 10:27:52 PM

In other words, it's better to keep an offensive up and throw the enemy off-balance than it is to constantly juke back for tippers.

I sure said that!
LinkToTheFuture A real bad hombre from somewhere completely different Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
A real bad hombre
#78228: Aug 15th 2015 at 10:36:52 PM

One thing I always seem to screw up is after I break a shield I just can't stand back at just the right distance to nail them with a smash attack: I dash between to close and to far, sliding right over the good spot each time.

"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work." -Thomas Edison
BurntMario Oh hai TV Tropes from Your nightmares Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
Oh hai TV Tropes
#78229: Aug 15th 2015 at 10:43:13 PM

I'm not saying that being too close or too far doesn't happen to me, but I usually just stay in the same spot after breaking someone's shield because most of the time it's tipped when I break it. I usually prefer using Shield Breaker again over the forward smash, though.

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LinkToTheFuture A real bad hombre from somewhere completely different Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
A real bad hombre
#78230: Aug 15th 2015 at 10:46:49 PM

I have that problem with Shield Breaker too. I just like using F-smash as for me it feels really good to connect with a tipper F-smash.

I'm also a total noob, but that's beside the point.

"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work." -Thomas Edison
Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#78231: Aug 16th 2015 at 6:47:32 PM

A tipped F-smash WILL kill at 70% without much chargeup. If you have a chance, land it.

Also, Marth needs a bit of a buff.

powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The crabby fussbudget
#78232: Aug 16th 2015 at 6:53:16 PM

I had a complete control of a fight in Smash with my friend.

He was using his favorite Link strategy, but I used Roy's counter to trip him up. And since he didn't figure out that his strategy wasn't working, he got his ass kicked most of the times he tried to spin attack me in the air.

AAAAUUUUGGGHHHH!!!!
LinkToTheFuture A real bad hombre from somewhere completely different Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
A real bad hombre
#78233: Aug 16th 2015 at 6:55:32 PM

Do the lv.9 CPUs have an absurd reaction time, especially when it comes to shielding/air dodging or do I just suck?

"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work." -Thomas Edison
ultimatepheer Since: Mar, 2011
#78234: Aug 16th 2015 at 6:58:41 PM

They have functionally instant reaction time, as they do read your button inputs and punish everything they are able to.

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#78235: Aug 16th 2015 at 6:59:26 PM

Absurd reaction time. They don't have to think like humans do. They're programmed to act depending upon what you do.

Shadow?
Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#78236: Aug 16th 2015 at 7:00:15 PM

I feel like they do. I feel as though CPU opponents foster poor playing habits, as they invalidate strategies like aerial followups or chasing off-ledge, leading to ignoring those strategies in your practicing, when they are important for fighting humans.

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LinkToTheFuture A real bad hombre from somewhere completely different Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
A real bad hombre
#78237: Aug 16th 2015 at 7:04:35 PM

Practicing my edge guarding against them is useless because the F-airs go right through them and they always do the perfect approach to the ledge, meaning no down smashes or Shield Breakers to keep them away. I also have had countless times where a nice tippered F-smash would have landed a sure hit on a CPU if they didn't shield at the precise right moment, which they always do.

[up]How should I practice to play against humans? Coordinating things with my friends is impossible and my Internet sucks as of now.

edited 16th Aug '15 7:09:33 PM by LinkToTheFuture

"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work." -Thomas Edison
Geist-Fox loafing about from north Since: Jun, 2015 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
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#78238: Aug 16th 2015 at 7:08:01 PM

Stick them in a custom stage with lava above a regular platform and watch as they keep landing in the lava, trying to get to that platfrom below it.

Good job CPU.

But yeah, Lv 9 CPU cheats. Perfectly timed footstools even to save their own kinds ass if a human player is about to get a KO.

Yeah, they fucking Gang Up on the Human even in free for alls outside of Classic.

An amiibo can be sort of like a human. Having 1 v 1 mirror matches makes them pickup on your habits. Though eventually they'll become a better version of yourself...

edited 16th Aug '15 7:09:08 PM by Geist-Fox

powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The crabby fussbudget
#78239: Aug 16th 2015 at 7:24:28 PM

Do you guys like playing against human opponents, in local multiplayer, in Smash?

It depends on the player for me. like some people can be flat out dickish to me (like deliberately going after me like my friend did today), or those that flat out camp (one of my other friends when he is Robin) or use the same moves when I counter them (the match I just described with the first friend being Link and me being Roy).

AAAAUUUUGGGHHHH!!!!
EpicBleye drunk bunny from her bed being very eepy Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
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#78240: Aug 16th 2015 at 7:26:05 PM

It's usually very fun, but like last night two of my friends would only ever team up on me, so I had no way of winning despite being the best player of all my friends.

(It also didn't help that we were playing Turbo mode on Project M, and one of my friends would only grab-spam as Ice Climbers).

[up][up]Like this?

edited 16th Aug '15 7:28:27 PM by EpicBleye

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#78241: Aug 16th 2015 at 7:27:50 PM

The AI cheats, yeah, but they kinda need it. Even at level 9 they simply cannot compete with the decision making and fluidity that a human has. I've seen level 9's self-destruct or stand around letting you smack them just as often as I see them coordinating footstool jumps or perfectly dodging everything.

edited 16th Aug '15 7:28:07 PM by Anomalocaris20

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
LinkToTheFuture A real bad hombre from somewhere completely different Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
A real bad hombre
#78242: Aug 16th 2015 at 7:30:00 PM

I love playing with my friends, because we're all around the same skill level. My best friend is a Ness main who loves to spam and is super predictable, while I'm a clueless noob an MLG badass. Much fun is had by all.

edited 16th Aug '15 7:31:40 PM by LinkToTheFuture

"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work." -Thomas Edison
powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The crabby fussbudget
#78243: Aug 16th 2015 at 7:33:02 PM

[up]one of my friends and I can fight pretty evenly (even with him getting a little spam happy with smash attacks), though I usually come out on top.

this can be opposite Mario Party 5 minigames where we fight evenly but he comes out on top.

AAAAUUUUGGGHHHH!!!!
LinkToTheFuture A real bad hombre from somewhere completely different Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
A real bad hombre
#78244: Aug 16th 2015 at 7:39:21 PM

I can hear it again:

PK FIRE! PK FIRE! PK FIRE! (Sound of grab) (Sound of D-throw) (Sound of F-air)

PK THUNDER! (WHOAH) (Sound of me swearing as I screw up the Counter and go flying)

"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work." -Thomas Edison
Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#78245: Aug 16th 2015 at 7:40:15 PM

Yeah. For Glory is pretty depressing.

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SapphireBlue Since: Jan, 2001
#78246: Aug 16th 2015 at 7:40:16 PM

This is a few pages late, but in terms of songs that should've been included, definitely Unfinished Battle. It only played once in the actual game, but it's an amazing song, and Smash would've been a good place to show it off.

Also, seconding Zinnia's battle theme, because that was a gorgeous song.

BurntMario Oh hai TV Tropes from Your nightmares Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
Oh hai TV Tropes
#78247: Aug 16th 2015 at 7:58:01 PM

You won't go too far if you keep playing against level 9 CPUs or people on For Glory.

That's why the best option is always to have friends.

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#78248: Aug 16th 2015 at 8:00:39 PM

If you have no option but to train against CP Us, then set them to level 8. That way, they're still challenging without being overly bullshit.

LinkToTheFuture A real bad hombre from somewhere completely different Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
A real bad hombre
#78249: Aug 16th 2015 at 8:04:18 PM

I agree. Lv. 9 CPU's play way too perfect to possibly be good for practicing.

"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work." -Thomas Edison
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#78250: Aug 16th 2015 at 8:05:21 PM

While I agree that they're bad for practice, I don't really think Level 9's are too hard to train against. They're still very predictable and outmaneuverable even if they're good at shielding and dodging.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!

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