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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#77976: Aug 11th 2015 at 11:01:32 AM

James Bond vs. Master Core sounds inexplicably funny to me.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
blkwhtrbbt The Dragon of the Eastern Sea from Doesn't take orders from Vladimir Putin Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
#77977: Aug 11th 2015 at 11:28:00 AM

Because it's just your typical James Bond movie?

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powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The crabby fussbudget
#77978: Aug 11th 2015 at 1:14:17 PM

Okay, why are fans so upset that K. Rool is a Mii costume? Just because he's a Mii costume, doesn't mean that he won't be playable. Meta Knight's Mii costume was revealed before he himself was revealed so no need to worry. Same goes for Lloyd. Chrom, Dunban, and possibly Heihachi are the only Mii costumes that won't become playable characters.

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Karxrida from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
#77979: Aug 11th 2015 at 2:19:37 PM

I think Chrom was specifically given "not happening" status for being too much like the other sword users. Lucina only got in as a last minute addition because the Dev team gave her costume some minor differences, which Sakurai thought was good enough for a separate character slot.

edited 11th Aug '15 2:20:07 PM by Karxrida

MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
Mr. Clueless
#77980: Aug 11th 2015 at 2:35:54 PM

I think this is a big reason why people hate Dark Pit.

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powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The crabby fussbudget
#77981: Aug 11th 2015 at 2:50:07 PM

[up][up] and [up] Lucina does have one major difference from Marth with her sword lacking a tipper. Dark Pit I know has a final smash and his side-b has some electrical properties.

How many Smash fans don't hate Dark Pit or Lucina? I actually like using them and have mained them since I first made my favorite characters list.

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MEKristian Since: Nov, 2009
#77982: Aug 11th 2015 at 2:51:29 PM

I don't hate either one, but prior times it's been brought up has already revealed how unpopular and opinion that happen to be in this thread.

EpicBleye drunk bunny from her bed being very eepy Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
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#77983: Aug 11th 2015 at 2:51:39 PM

It's because Dark Pit has the edge.

And I seriously don't get why everyone has their panties in a twist over clones. It's not like not having them would have resulted in more characters, or have done us any good. We would just have less characters.

"There's not a girl alive who wouldn't be happy being called cute." ~Tamamo-no-Mae
Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#77984: Aug 11th 2015 at 2:53:55 PM

If only Dark Pit had had enough time for a full character slot.

Could've had a completely different character, using staffs and palms and clubs and such.

Instead of effectively giving Pit 3-6 extra custom specials.

edited 11th Aug '15 2:54:50 PM by Enlong

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powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The crabby fussbudget
#77985: Aug 11th 2015 at 2:55:55 PM

I believe that the moveset clones are the last characters to be put in a Smash Bros game? Didn't Sakurai say this? So it's not like Lucina or Dark Pit really stole a spot. (and didn't Sakurai also say that there are no slots?)

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Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#77986: Aug 11th 2015 at 2:58:59 PM

"Enough time for a full moveset", then.

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MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
Mr. Clueless
#77987: Aug 11th 2015 at 3:54:42 PM

Still feels hypocritical to include Dark Pit and Lucina but not Chrom, because there is literally nothing they can use to distinguish him from Marth or Ike.

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HeavyDDR Who's Vergo-san. from Central Texas Since: Jul, 2009
Who's Vergo-san.
#77988: Aug 11th 2015 at 3:59:58 PM

Chrom's been deconfirmed as playable since he was used as Robin's Final Smash. It's unfortunate Chrom didn't make the cut, I guess, but it's not like we don't already have a ton of different sword users, several of which come from his own universe.

I'm more disappointed that Lucina came in with a clone moveset, when Awakening had a lot to draw from for an original moveset. But then again, that's every Fire Emblem character in Smash, basically. I don't think Sakurai has really played a Fire Emblem game.

I'm pretty sure the concept of Law having limits was a translation error. -Wanderlustwarrior
EpicBleye drunk bunny from her bed being very eepy Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
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#77989: Aug 11th 2015 at 4:01:34 PM

[up][up]Sakurai stated that neither Marth's nor Ike's moveset suited Chrom, which is why he wasn't a costume for either, and I agree.

"There's not a girl alive who wouldn't be happy being called cute." ~Tamamo-no-Mae
MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
Mr. Clueless
#77990: Aug 11th 2015 at 4:07:27 PM

Why wouldn't they have suited Chrom?

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EpicBleye drunk bunny from her bed being very eepy Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
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#77991: Aug 11th 2015 at 4:10:11 PM

It just wouldn't. Chrom isn't a smooth agile fighter like Marth (and Lucina) in the games, nor is he the brute strength aggro fighter that Ike is.

Making him a costume, or clone, of either of them would also doom him to never getting the unique moveset he deserves, either.

"There's not a girl alive who wouldn't be happy being called cute." ~Tamamo-no-Mae
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#77992: Aug 11th 2015 at 4:28:34 PM

Have to wonder why Chrom is ill-fit as a Marth clone but Lucina isn't; aside from taking on Marth's name for a few chapters she doesn't have much in common with him. And her swordplay is described as being more like her father's than Marth's.

Either way, I don't hate any of the clone characters since it's not as if they're taking away slots from other, more unique characters; they're just the whipped cream on top of an ice cream sundae. Dark Pit does earn a bit of my ire because besides being a clone he's also contributing to Uprising's gross overrepresentation and feels like very obvious favoritism. Also doesn't help that without the levity in Uprising, here he just comes across as Ow the Edge Pit.

edited 11th Aug '15 4:29:34 PM by Anomalocaris20

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HeavyDDR Who's Vergo-san. from Central Texas Since: Jul, 2009
Who's Vergo-san.
#77993: Aug 11th 2015 at 4:55:41 PM

Lucina is a grill and thus makes more sense for her to move elegantly, like Marth, who is grill-like.

Not my personal logic, by the way, just pointing out Sakurai's perspective.

I'm pretty sure the concept of Law having limits was a translation error. -Wanderlustwarrior
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#77994: Aug 11th 2015 at 4:58:39 PM

Yeah, I throw some hamburgers on the ol' Lucina every now and then.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#77995: Aug 11th 2015 at 5:00:28 PM

Robin's a step in the right direction.

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strawberryflavored Since: Sep, 2010
#77996: Aug 11th 2015 at 5:09:11 PM

Sakurai has played Awakening at least, it was mentioned as the reason Robin was chosen over Chrom.

HeavyDDR Who's Vergo-san. from Central Texas Since: Jul, 2009
Who's Vergo-san.
#77997: Aug 11th 2015 at 5:25:25 PM

That shows well with Robin at least. I guess they liked the idea of a swordsman-spellcaster, and they have an interesting moveset to prove it. Everyone else, on the other hand, sounds like they were made by someone who was only told "they're anime characters that use swords, one is blue and moves faster, the other is blue and red and is slower, and the other is the first guy but a grill."

I'm pretty sure the concept of Law having limits was a translation error. -Wanderlustwarrior
Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#77998: Aug 11th 2015 at 5:34:35 PM

Chrom didn't make the cut.

Good god, that's unintentionally hilarious.

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Ninety Absolutely no relation to NLK from Land of Quakes and Hills Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
Absolutely no relation to NLK
#77999: Aug 11th 2015 at 6:01:28 PM

I'm still salty. I wouldn't mind if in the future Smash included a bunch of alts with a few gameplay differences for most characters. Lucina for Marth, Chrom for Ike, Morgan for Robin, for starters. Then you can go nuts with Toon Ganondorf, Wolf, and whoever you like.

Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.
blkwhtrbbt The Dragon of the Eastern Sea from Doesn't take orders from Vladimir Putin Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
#78000: Aug 11th 2015 at 6:26:26 PM

Blaziken.

Blaze Kick. Flamethrower. Sky Uppercut. Slash.

Perfect.

edited 11th Aug '15 6:27:00 PM by blkwhtrbbt

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