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MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
Mr. Clueless
#77301: Jul 27th 2015 at 7:37:55 PM

Back in Brawl, no one quite knew how to place Sonic. They put him in the tiers anyway, but many people admitted that they were only estimating.

De Romanīs, lingua Latina gloriosa non fuī.
Ninety Absolutely no relation to NLK from Land of Quakes and Hills Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
Absolutely no relation to NLK
#77302: Jul 27th 2015 at 8:19:13 PM

You guys wanna know what's a colossal dick move from the devs? Elwind runs out in the middle of the jump.

Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.
Geist-Fox loafing about from north Since: Jun, 2015 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
loafing about
#77303: Jul 27th 2015 at 8:20:57 PM

Never had that happen.

Hell, I can't remember if I ever ran out of Elwind during any actual match.

No, I'm not saying it never runs out. But it just has so many uses I don't ever seem to.

edited 27th Jul '15 8:22:22 PM by Geist-Fox

FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
feeling blue
#77304: Jul 27th 2015 at 8:20:58 PM

How do you lose the tome in mid-air without using Elwind beforehand? The only way I can see it is if you got hit while using the last one and was sent offstage.

Geist-Fox loafing about from north Since: Jun, 2015 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
loafing about
#77305: Jul 27th 2015 at 8:24:08 PM

Robin's rapid attack uses Elwind. Elwinds uses are counted by each wind blade used.

The rapid attack makes it possible to use an uneven number of wind blades.

Casting Elwind for recovery always uses two, but if you have only one left...

And the way I found this out was when messing around in training. tongue

edited 27th Jul '15 8:25:02 PM by Geist-Fox

FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
feeling blue
#77306: Jul 27th 2015 at 8:26:37 PM

I thought Elwind only counted as one use.

... Oh man that must be hilarious when you're not the victim.

Geist-Fox loafing about from north Since: Jun, 2015 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
loafing about
#77307: Jul 27th 2015 at 8:33:09 PM

I never seen it happen though, apart from just messing around. But that might be because not many people play as Robin.

Though Elwind has a massive amount of uses compared to all other tomes.

strawberryflavored Since: Sep, 2010
#77308: Jul 27th 2015 at 8:35:21 PM

I haven't had it run out on me, though I've made it happen to other people.

FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
feeling blue
#77309: Jul 27th 2015 at 8:38:44 PM

Elwind has 18 uses so unless you really spam that rapid jab it shouldn't be running out.

Either that or you get knocked offstage a lot.

edited 27th Jul '15 8:39:02 PM by FullMoon

EpicBleye drunk bunny from her bed being very eepy Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
drunk bunny
#77310: Jul 27th 2015 at 9:53:45 PM

New Tier List for July! (Non-customs, Miis have access to all their moves) Source

I know it may be a tad hard to read, so I can type it out if anyone wishes.

"There's not a girl alive who wouldn't be happy being called cute." ~Tamamo-no-Mae
MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
Mr. Clueless
#77311: Jul 27th 2015 at 9:59:15 PM

1) Pikachu is never not powerful as hell in Smash Bros.

2) I did not expect Little Mac to rank so high. That was not sarcasm.

3) Brawler is still light-years ahead of Gunner and Sworder Swordfighter. I made a Brawler who only has leg-based moves. She's wonderful.

edited 27th Jul '15 10:00:12 PM by MightyMatilda

De Romanīs, lingua Latina gloriosa non fuī.
Sterok Since: Apr, 2012
#77312: Jul 27th 2015 at 10:00:26 PM

Sheik at the very top and Zelda at the very bottom. How fitting. Good to see Rosalina and Pikachu are still up there.

Hungryguy I am a Rad Reptile. from inside a cheese wheel Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
I am a Rad Reptile.
#77313: Jul 27th 2015 at 10:09:03 PM

Why are my mains always so low? I expected more of you, Dr. Mario, Bowser, and Ganondorf. Also Mewtwo.

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TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
Demonfly birdie fairy Since: Jul, 2012
birdie fairy
#77315: Jul 27th 2015 at 10:11:02 PM

The Zelda thing has been there for months now (though I guess it is comical how apparently nothing has bothered to change that).

Surprised to see Luigi remain that high up, though; I had thought most of his perks would have gotten plenty of answers by now.

Ryu right behind Mario is also kinda cute.

edited 27th Jul '15 10:16:24 PM by Demonfly

"Tell them to shut up and have some faith in me." - dead flashback guy
Ninety Absolutely no relation to NLK from Land of Quakes and Hills Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
Absolutely no relation to NLK
#77316: Jul 27th 2015 at 10:48:42 PM

Robin remains at B-, as expected. I feel Roy's gonna drop a bit once the hype dies down. And the buffs did wonders for Ike, it seems.

And it's kinda funny that Zelda is the best and worst character in the game.

edited 27th Jul '15 10:49:28 PM by Ninety

Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.
EpicBleye drunk bunny from her bed being very eepy Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
drunk bunny
#77317: Jul 27th 2015 at 11:01:03 PM

I would think the opposite, that Roy might go up instead. Because, while there are a group of people who love him (like I), there's a much larger group of people who are neutral or negative to him.

"There's not a girl alive who wouldn't be happy being called cute." ~Tamamo-no-Mae
FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
feeling blue
#77318: Jul 27th 2015 at 11:01:13 PM

I kinda stopped caring about tier lists. I'm just gonna play the game with my frog and try to master him.

Oh and Lucas too.

EpicBleye drunk bunny from her bed being very eepy Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
drunk bunny
#77319: Jul 27th 2015 at 11:02:50 PM

I just think they're interesting. They're certainly not going to change my mind on any characters I play as.

That said, Full Moon not caring about tier lists? Better nerf greninja.

"There's not a girl alive who wouldn't be happy being called cute." ~Tamamo-no-Mae
Karxrida from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
#77320: Jul 27th 2015 at 11:28:09 PM

I don't really follow the comp scene like with Pokemon, but I was always under the impression that Mario was too evened-out to be a decent character in competitive.

FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
feeling blue
#77321: Jul 27th 2015 at 11:28:36 PM

You should aim the meme at Diddy now that he's been nerfed twice while Greninja got nerfed once and then got buffed tongue

Ninety Absolutely no relation to NLK from Land of Quakes and Hills Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
Absolutely no relation to NLK
#77322: Jul 27th 2015 at 11:45:12 PM

[up][up] Eh, I know that trope used to be called The Mario, but you can make a well-rounded character and end up with a wide variety of viability. It's a spectrum from Master of None -> Jack of All Stats -> Master of All. Mario is probably between the latter two.

Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.
Demonfly birdie fairy Since: Jul, 2012
birdie fairy
#77323: Jul 28th 2015 at 12:08:06 AM

Nonexistent ending lag on most of his moves certainly helps.

"Tell them to shut up and have some faith in me." - dead flashback guy
powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The crabby fussbudget
#77324: Jul 28th 2015 at 12:11:33 AM

When it comes to the Mario characters in Smash (not counting the Kongs, Yoshi, and Wario), I tend to like using Luigi, Peach, and Bowser more than Mario himself.

AAAAUUUUGGGHHHH!!!!
FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
feeling blue
#77325: Jul 28th 2015 at 12:12:03 AM

Mario is not the Jack of All Stats in this game, here he's more of a speedster, having the second fastest moveset in the game, ironically losing only to his brother.

The ones people in this scene consider to be the well-rounded character are Pit and Dark Pit.


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