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powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The crabby fussbudget
#77201: Jul 22nd 2015 at 4:47:34 PM

[up][up] Mega Man 10 was released in 2010. And there were a lot more Mega Man spinoff games released in the 2000s. Mega Man Classic barely had a presence in the 2000s. And I believe all those Street Fighter games were also spinoffs that very few people even remember. And I think there were very SF games in the 2000s, so barely having a presence. Snake and Sonic had the most presence in the 2000s.

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Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#77202: Jul 22nd 2015 at 6:03:24 PM

I still think FLUDD would have made a decent Final Smash. At least, it wouldn't be something made up for Smash. And it'd work nicely with Luigi getting the Poltergust as a Final Smash.

Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#77203: Jul 22nd 2015 at 6:08:14 PM

To be fair, the Mario Finale is derived from standard Fire Mario stuff- If you look closely, you can even see it's two large intertwined fireballs instead of one huge one- and it's appropriate that Mario would have such a basic, direct Final Smash.

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Eskay64 Since: Nov, 2010
#77204: Jul 22nd 2015 at 6:09:25 PM

I still want Giga Bowser to appear in actual Mario canon someday.

powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The crabby fussbudget
#77205: Jul 22nd 2015 at 6:11:01 PM

I think a lot of us want to see Giga Bowser in a main series game where he is played straight. It might not work well with the RP Gs where Bowser is a comedic character, though.

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BlitzTrain Since: Apr, 2014
#77206: Jul 22nd 2015 at 6:22:57 PM

Wasn't Giga Bowser in 'Bowser's Inside Story' and New Super Mario Bros Wii?

Not that I have any idea what constitutes 'actual mario canon' tongue

edited 22nd Jul '15 6:23:32 PM by BlitzTrain

Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#77207: Jul 22nd 2015 at 6:23:51 PM

Those were just times when Bowser got even huger than typical.

edited 22nd Jul '15 6:24:14 PM by Pulse

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BlitzTrain Since: Apr, 2014
#77208: Jul 22nd 2015 at 6:25:35 PM

Is that somehow different from 'Giga Bowser?'

I know he looks a bit more bestial in his final smashes, but I figured that was just Smash version's depiction of it

Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#77209: Jul 22nd 2015 at 6:27:37 PM

I mean, not really, but people love to be contradictory.

I'm cool with Giga Bowser as Bowser's FS, considering he's been doing the grow-stupid-big thing since Yoshi's Island.

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FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
BlitzTrain Since: Apr, 2014
#77211: Jul 22nd 2015 at 6:32:49 PM

Just curious about what I was missing. I don't really do the fandom thing for anything so there's plenty of opportunity for that!

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edited 22nd Jul '15 6:33:14 PM by BlitzTrain

Demonfly birdie fairy Since: Jul, 2012
birdie fairy
#77212: Jul 22nd 2015 at 6:41:06 PM

Is that somehow different from 'Giga Bowser?'

Mario's Bowser never had ice nor darkness powers, for one.

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BlitzTrain Since: Apr, 2014
#77213: Jul 22nd 2015 at 6:53:24 PM

Smash!Gigabowser has those? i never noticed... Fair point

I haven't seen Bowser's FS since I got the game, so thanks for the heads up smile

Eskay64 Since: Nov, 2010
#77214: Jul 22nd 2015 at 7:19:11 PM

There are a ton of differences between Giga Bowser and just plain Bowser beyond the size. The elemental attacks, for one, but also physical differences. Giga has a lot more (sharper) spikes, and even if you remove the spikes, his shell more closely resembles alligator snapping turtles than his base form, which more resembles flatter-shelled turtles. Also, he has a longer, more angular face and similarly longer and sharper teeth. In general, he looks a lot less... cartoonish.

edited 22nd Jul '15 7:20:18 PM by Eskay64

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#77215: Jul 22nd 2015 at 11:29:19 PM

I see Giga-Bowser as being more than just a giant Bowser, but something outright monstrous and feral. I'd love to see it in the Mario series not as a form of Bowser, but as a kind of evil duplicate or something a la the Cosmic Clones.

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#77216: Jul 22nd 2015 at 11:30:46 PM

Doesn't Bowser have darkness powers in the rpg's, though? Not ice, though.

Giga Bowser is made for Smash, but based partially upon Bowser's "grow huge to fight even more powerfully than before" style he does in the Mario games. However, as noted, he gains powers never seen before.

Partially related, but Giga Bowser's fighting abilities are specifically Melee/Brawl style. His moveset is almost the exact same between the two games(just the Forward B changing), compared to 4 where he got a major overhaul. Being that he's not available to play as in Melee, there's the theory that during the story(which is Adventure Mode) that Bowser defeated and absorbed his Giga form, but can't use it whenever he wants(hence the Smash Ball requirement. Although that's just a gameplay mechanic. In a story format, I'm guessing the idea is they can rarely pull out a Final Smash in a way that a Limit Break can happen, only under certain conditions).

I would like to see Giga Bowser in a regular Mario game, though. Even as a cameo in a Mario Party game would be fine. He'd be a neat PC in Mario Kart, though. With all the random racers, he'd be a great heavyweight.

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MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
Mr. Clueless
#77217: Jul 22nd 2015 at 11:37:14 PM

Reminds me how in the manual for SMB 1, Bowser apparently had the occult magic powers necessary to turn the Mushroom Kingdom residents into plants and bricks. Maybe he forgot it over the years.

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#77218: Jul 22nd 2015 at 11:38:41 PM

We see him using what looks like warp magic in Mario Galaxy.

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powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The crabby fussbudget
#77219: Jul 22nd 2015 at 11:55:08 PM

I kinda think that Giga Bowser should've been 3D World's final boss over Bowser with the cat power-up.

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MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
Demonfly birdie fairy Since: Jul, 2012
birdie fairy
#77221: Jul 23rd 2015 at 12:10:23 AM

Doesn't Bowser have darkness powers in the rpg's, though?

Can't say anything about SMR, but as far as I can tell all of his other RPG appearances were all usually limited to mundane Bowser stuff unless he's explicitly being aided/influenced by a separate source (Kammy, Star Rod, Shroobs, etc).

edited 23rd Jul '15 12:11:53 AM by Demonfly

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MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
Mr. Clueless
#77222: Jul 23rd 2015 at 12:15:00 AM

In SMRPG, Bowser did have an ability called Terrorize (and another one where he spits Poison Gas, for some reason). But, I think that's less "powers of darkness" and more "is generally terrifying". The other two abilities of his were purely physical.

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#77223: Jul 23rd 2015 at 12:21:55 AM

Terrorize he summons a giant Boo, Poison Gas he summons a Mokura. Neither of those are really Bowser himself using those abilities.

The only real magical "power" he displays is actually an earth-based attack.

edited 23rd Jul '15 12:22:15 AM by Anomalocaris20

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rmctagg09 The Wanderer from Brooklyn, NY (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
The Wanderer
#77224: Jul 23rd 2015 at 1:22:33 AM

We know Bowser is capable of magical teleportation at least.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#77225: Jul 23rd 2015 at 1:37:17 AM

Bowser's Dark magic is just an informed ability stated by the manual of the first game, same with Peach's own magic powers.

Until Galaxy 1, he's got a Dark spin attack and teleports with dark magic.

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