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And ZSS.
And Olimar.
And Dedede.
And Bowser.
And many more.
And I'm not entirely sure what the point of this is since the subject is completely ignoring the more subtle and decisive alterations to various moves.
edited 21st Jul '15 5:51:25 PM by Demonfly
"Tell them to shut up and have some faith in me." - dead flashback guyI personally think most of Ganondorf's A moves are fine. Maybe change the animation for some of his Smash Attacks to be a sword strike, or replace his up-tilt with one, but otherwise they're different enough now.
It's his B-moves that need changing, really. Flame Choke's the only one that really works as his own unique move.
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F.L.U.D.D. is still awful, especially now that Sunshine is even older than the Fleeting Demographic.
edited 21st Jul '15 5:53:12 PM by BaffleBlend
"It's liberating, realizing you never need to be competent." — UltimatepheerWell, I'll always prefer Dr. Mario to Regular Mario, because the Tornado is just better.
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I forgot to specify this, but I meant from Brawl to Sm4sh. So that excludes Mario. Base moveset excludes Smash Ball, so I think that could exclude ZSS. Dedede barely really has a difference (Besides, he could throw Gordos in Brawl, unless you're talking about his final smash). Olimar did actually have a major change between Brawl and 4.
edited 21st Jul '15 5:56:04 PM by powerpuffbats
AAAAUUUUGGGHHHH!!!!You're ignoring Zero's new free kill-confirm Up-B (and I recall there being key differences in her non-Special moveset as well), while Gordo Toss is functionally an entirely new move altogether, especially with its far lesser potential knockback and suicidal gimmick (and this is again putting aside regular attack changes like his D-tilt).
Regardless, again, movesets aren't the only factor here.
edited 21st Jul '15 6:05:57 PM by Demonfly
"Tell them to shut up and have some faith in me." - dead flashback guyUgh. Why is nobody ever in the Multiplayer thread anymore? Do people not actually play against each other anymore?
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A lot of the requests are one-on-one and thus have moved to Private Messages, which are private.
I see. Well, where do I go when I don't have a specific person in mind?
I like Mario's F.L.U.D.D. It's a unique, unorthodox move that helps to differentiate his playstyle from Doc and Luigi. It's situational as situational can be, but with the right matchup, it's always there when you need it. It's basically like a built-in Gust Bellows, except not nearly as braindead.
That, and Little Macs cower in fear over the sheer sight of it.
edited 21st Jul '15 6:54:40 PM by BurntMario
Call me Willy Whistle 'cause I can't speak, baby. Something in TV Tropes really drove me crazy.Eh, campy Links, Villager and Spamuses are worse. Pit can be a solid counter for Sonic because disjointed jab locks.
And Duck Hunt and Ryu have the best final smashes. I kinda wanted Metsu Shoryuken instead of Shin Shoryuken.
edited 21st Jul '15 6:55:20 PM by mrstack345
Your works are one trope short.Ah, fun times. In FG on the 3DS version, I was playing as Charizard against Mr. Game and Watch, and he'd been trying the whole match to land a 9 with Judgement. Well, in the final hit of the match, he got it... right while I was in the middle of Rock Smash's super armour. He was sent soaring and I couldn't help but laugh.
Switch FC code: SW-4420-1809-1805Sonic's annoying to fight since he can just run away all the time.
Good thing about being Wario is you can catch every single one of his approaches in your mouth. Dash attack, side-B, down-B, neutral-B, even the D-air if you angle it right.
You know, I just realized: the Gale Boomerang works just like boomerangs in the Zelda series in that it returns items to Link.
How did I not notice that until now?
Call me Willy Whistle 'cause I can't speak, baby. Something in TV Tropes really drove me crazy.

The only vets that really had a base moveset change were Zelda, Sheik, Pit, and Charizard. And all but one of them were originally part of multiple characters in Melee and Brawl.
AAAAUUUUGGGHHHH!!!!