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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#77026: Jul 19th 2015 at 10:27:08 PM

Rather ironic that Olimar is the worst character to play as in All-Star, but easily the most dangerous opponent to face.

Sonic's Forward-Smash is sufficiently powerful for KO'ing, his Down-Smash is good for getting some breathing room, and his Up-Smash is good for racking up some damage for the KO.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#77027: Jul 19th 2015 at 10:27:19 PM

Ah, see, All-Star has some wonkiness to how launchers work- Sonic's pretty good since his attacks come out fast and are fairly direct, whereas auto-combo moves like Sheik's Forward Smash are not so great, and Olimar's Pikmin are all on the relatively hard-to-hit-with side and don't have enough punch to 'em- They end up needing four or five hits to KO in a mode where the standard is one or two.

edited 19th Jul '15 10:28:01 PM by Pulse

I sure said that!
Demonfly birdie fairy Since: Jul, 2012
birdie fairy
#77028: Jul 19th 2015 at 10:29:50 PM

Isn't Pikachu really the only household name for any of the Pokemon?

That's sort of what being a mascot would entail, yes.

Regardless, all of the SSB Pokemon (even Greninja, frankly) have had exponentially higher exposure and popularity in their respective periods than the likes of Wario have had in their entire careers.

It's possible to be worse at launching than Sonic?

...I'm not sure what the basis of this is. Have you seen his Up Smash?

edited 19th Jul '15 10:33:36 PM by Demonfly

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EpicBleye drunk bunny from her bed being very eepy Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
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#77029: Jul 19th 2015 at 10:30:17 PM

All-Star is really just annoying to me. I never had too much trouble with it on Hard with any character, other than losing a few times with characters I'm not great as.

Though, the one round with all the Pokemon, Ness, and Ganon is god awful. You have a bunch of fast characters to rack up percentage, and then a bunch of heavy characters that can kill you in one hit due to the fact you had your damage racked up.

"There's not a girl alive who wouldn't be happy being called cute." ~Tamamo-no-Mae
powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The crabby fussbudget
#77030: Jul 19th 2015 at 10:31:43 PM

[up][up]So, most of the SSB Pokemon would more qualify for at worst Level 2? (I'm really doubting Pichu here)

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powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The crabby fussbudget
#77031: Jul 19th 2015 at 10:32:43 PM

Again, I really want someone to make their own list about SSB character popularity.

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EpicBleye drunk bunny from her bed being very eepy Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
drunk bunny
#77032: Jul 19th 2015 at 10:33:11 PM

don't worry i got you

"There's not a girl alive who wouldn't be happy being called cute." ~Tamamo-no-Mae
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#77033: Jul 19th 2015 at 10:34:05 PM

I find Round 2 and 4 worse. Round 3's only real problematic character for me is Sheik, who runs around throwing needles everywhere. The only KO-worthy character is Ness, since his yo-yo counts as a projectile attack apparently, but it's easy to keep him at a distance.

Round 2 pits you against Villager and Olimar, the two deadliest characters in All-Star, at the same time.

Round 4 only has one KO-worthy opponent, Dedede, but my GOD if his Gordo spam isn't annoying. Not only are they pretty much a OHKO unless you go in with 0%, but in my experience all he ever DOES is toss Gordos everywhere, and he seems to be able to angle them just right so that they bounce into you out of nowhere.

Also doesn't help that the round opens up with Fox, Meta Knight, and Falco, who can't kill you but are really good at racking up damage to soften you up for Dedede, and good at covering each other's asses defensively.

edited 19th Jul '15 10:35:01 PM by Anomalocaris20

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
EpicBleye drunk bunny from her bed being very eepy Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
drunk bunny
#77034: Jul 19th 2015 at 11:29:10 PM

official character popularity list made by yours truly

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#77035: Jul 19th 2015 at 11:30:02 PM

Beautiful.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Demonfly birdie fairy Since: Jul, 2012
birdie fairy
#77037: Jul 20th 2015 at 12:28:17 AM

That would have more to do with Zelda's recovery just being that bad.

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#77038: Jul 20th 2015 at 12:46:48 AM

Hydro Pump is like the Difficult, but Awesome version of F.L.U.D.D.

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FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
feeling blue
#77039: Jul 20th 2015 at 12:48:53 AM

[up][up] No? Zelda's recovery is among the safest in the whole game.

Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#77040: Jul 20th 2015 at 1:04:20 AM

And this is why teleportation moves should actually be teleports and not rapid movements. Lazy Zelda.tongue

edited 20th Jul '15 1:04:38 AM by Pulse

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BaffleBlend Hey there! Having fun? from Somewhere Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: LET'S HAVE A ZILLION BABIES
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#77041: Jul 20th 2015 at 5:50:20 AM

I still can't get over how early her teleport K Os, and somehow, I always fall for it and am never able to pull it off myself.

Sometimes it feels like the game has an "is it me playing?" detector or something and weakens my character accordingly.

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FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
feeling blue
#77042: Jul 20th 2015 at 8:22:35 AM

Generally when you connect with the first hit you just straight up and the second one should connect at kill percentages.

Farore's elevator.

I think Greninja might be the only character capable of edgeguarding teleport recoveries thanks to how wonky they are when Hydro Pump is in the mix tongue

BaffleBlend Hey there! Having fun? from Somewhere Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: LET'S HAVE A ZILLION BABIES
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#77043: Jul 20th 2015 at 8:32:19 AM

[up]By the way, I didn't get a chance to say this while I was banned; I'm sorry for being such a sore loser those times I played against you.

Matches with such a massive skill gap can be a little disheartening, and I have a bad habit of letting it get to me.

edited 20th Jul '15 8:32:52 AM by BaffleBlend

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powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The crabby fussbudget
#77044: Jul 20th 2015 at 10:04:39 AM

@Epic Bleye: I'm still trying to comprehend your list. I'm confused as to how Mario and Peach have shit popularity?

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Elbruno Mummy Woomy from Chile: Not As Dry As Space! Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Mummy Woomy
#77045: Jul 20th 2015 at 10:11:17 AM

Get one of these

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Hungryguy I am a Rad Reptile. from inside a cheese wheel Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#77046: Jul 20th 2015 at 10:30:39 AM

Say, Moon, is there any particular reason that you only use Greninja's default color?

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Oh hai TV Tropes
#77047: Jul 20th 2015 at 10:31:59 AM

I use the default palette for my characters most of the time.

I'm a plain kind of person.

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Demonfly birdie fairy Since: Jul, 2012
birdie fairy
#77048: Jul 20th 2015 at 10:43:47 AM

No? Zelda's recovery is among the safest in the whole game.

As a teleport, yes, that would sorta be a given.

As a recovery move where you can't manage to land it safely immediately upon finishing, however, it's overly compensated deadweight. As your link very clearly demonstrates.

edited 20th Jul '15 10:45:38 AM by Demonfly

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#77049: Jul 20th 2015 at 10:46:32 AM

When I play as my main the Villager, I typically use the fifth one (the sleepy-eyed boy in the tye-dye tee). I also like using either the Purple/White or Green/Purple Lucarios, the Silver or Purple Charizards, or the Purple, Cyan, Yellow, Black, or Pink Yoshis. (Usually the Purple one though.) I'm kind of a purple type of guy.tongue I also usually play as Iggy, Roy, or Ludwig when playing as one of the Koopa Kids.

I typically use the standard colors when playing with Ryu, Mewtwo (sometimes I use the light blue color though), or characters I don't use very often. (Peach, Zelda, both versions of Samus, Pit, Pittoo, etc.)

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MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
Mr. Clueless
#77050: Jul 20th 2015 at 11:11:22 AM

I remember Mewtwo's teleport Up-B being the overall best recovery in Melee. Is it still considered good?

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