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blkwhtrbbt The Dragon of the Eastern Sea from Doesn't take orders from Vladimir Putin Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
#77001: Jul 19th 2015 at 8:13:01 PM

There are sooo many pokemon now

Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you
ultimatepheer Since: Mar, 2011
#77002: Jul 19th 2015 at 8:15:27 PM

At last count, somewhere in the range of 720.

There's a BUNCH.

Customer Since: Sep, 2009
#77003: Jul 19th 2015 at 8:17:47 PM

Good thing Gen VI made it easier to get almost all the Pokemon, barring event-only Mons.

Still, kudos to everyone who actually managed to complete their Pokedex (multiple times even) over the generations. [tup]

MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
Mr. Clueless
#77004: Jul 19th 2015 at 8:18:29 PM

Also, Pikachu was my second ever Pokemon in Y. Pikachu's clearly not going away any time soon.

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BaffleBlend Hey there! Having fun? from Somewhere Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: LET'S HAVE A ZILLION BABIES
Hey there! Having fun?
#77005: Jul 19th 2015 at 8:19:03 PM

I mean, Pokémon as a franchise is nowhere near as omnipresent as it used to be.

In the late 90's? Early 00's? You couldn't walk five steps without seeing a Pikachu-print something.

Nowadays poké-hype's pretty much confined to just Nintendo fans.

Still popular, yeah, but not even remotely comparable to its heyday. (Keep in mind 64 and Melee were released while it was still in its heyday.)

"It's liberating, realizing you never need to be competent." — Ultimatepheer
Demonfly birdie fairy Since: Jul, 2012
birdie fairy
#77006: Jul 19th 2015 at 8:24:51 PM

I'd say that has more to do with the show (and especially the movies) generally falling out of relevance in the west, rather than anything game-related.

On that note, I'm impressed at how nobody cared about the G/S juggernaut Pichu being on tier 3.

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Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#77007: Jul 19th 2015 at 8:30:35 PM

Indeed, the Pokemon games have done nothing but steadily climb in popularity- It's just that they haven't hit the heady highs the anime had back when, while the anime itself has had its popularity, especially internationally, drop significantly.

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strawberryflavored Since: Sep, 2010
#77008: Jul 19th 2015 at 8:33:52 PM

Pokemania is long over, it ended with RS. But that doesn't mean people that aren't Nintendo fans suddenly stopped liking it. With the exception of Genwunners who have their nostalgia goggles glued to their faces, if you show someone Pokemon, they'll probably react positively.

blkwhtrbbt The Dragon of the Eastern Sea from Doesn't take orders from Vladimir Putin Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
#77009: Jul 19th 2015 at 8:37:28 PM

I never played past Gen3. Systems got too freaking expensive.

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Sterok Since: Apr, 2012
#77010: Jul 19th 2015 at 9:33:36 PM

Pokemon is currently Nintendo's biggest series. Pokemon XY will almost certainly be Nintendo's biggest seller of the gen (with the possible exception of both Smashes combined) Easily. It's also the only one with serious multi-media representation with anime, movies, manga, cards, toys, smartphone apps, official tournaments in over 40 countries, and much more. Pikachu has parades in its honor. It's still huge, though it's not quite the phenomenon it was at its peak.

Any list that puts Jigglypuff and Pichu on the same level as Dark Pit isn't worth salvaging.

powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The crabby fussbudget
#77011: Jul 19th 2015 at 9:36:22 PM

Jiggs has fallen out of relevance, though. Like I have heard that she has fallen out of relevance. And I highly doubt that the general public at large will recognize Pichu.

Also, I have said this before, but you can also make your own list. My list is a reflection of who I think is well known. Your list can reflect who you think is known. No need to contest my list because it doesn't fall in line with what you think.

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EpicBleye drunk bunny from her bed being very eepy Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
drunk bunny
#77012: Jul 19th 2015 at 9:37:12 PM

[up][up]Eh. Mario definitely sells more than Pokemon. Though pokemon is definitely a solid number 2.

"There's not a girl alive who wouldn't be happy being called cute." ~Tamamo-no-Mae
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#77013: Jul 19th 2015 at 9:38:35 PM

Actually I think Pokemon is a better seller than Mario even if Mario's more famous?

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Sterok Since: Apr, 2012
#77014: Jul 19th 2015 at 9:42:01 PM

[up][up]Last gen yes. Right now? Not really. XY are over 13 million and may very well reach 15 million eventually. ORAS should be over 10 million by now. Z or whatever it is will probably do 6-7 million, but obviously that's too early to call. Mario's biggest game is Mario Kart 7 at 11 million, followed by the 3DS platformers at around 10 million. Of course Mario is strangled by the Wii U, but that's how it rolls for now.

I do want to note that Mario is the bigger video game franchise, but Pokemon is the bigger franchise in general thanks to all the multimedia stuff. It's an important distinction when discussing which is bigger.

edited 19th Jul '15 9:42:14 PM by Sterok

Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#77015: Jul 19th 2015 at 9:42:15 PM

I think it's something like, Mario has more overall sales if you count every piece of software he's starred in, but (almost?) none individually beat a Pokemon game pair- But I don't exactly have the numbers up right now.

edited 19th Jul '15 9:43:03 PM by Pulse

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Sterok Since: Apr, 2012
#77016: Jul 19th 2015 at 10:02:19 PM

If my numbers are correct (which I can't be certain of for older titles), Pokemon's peak is RGB with over 30 million sold. Pokemon Yellow was over 14 million, and put together that beats any Mario game. Super Mario Bros. is around 40 million, but that was bundled. Mario Kart Wii is at 35 million, but that was also eventually bundled. New Super Mario Bros. DS is at 30 million. So their peaks are pretty close, but nowadays Mario depends on how well Nintendo is doing, while Pokemon is overall more consistent.

EpicBleye drunk bunny from her bed being very eepy Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
drunk bunny
#77017: Jul 19th 2015 at 10:06:00 PM

Games series have been selling less and less with every sequel due to the development of smart phones among other factors. Trying to base a series' success by its sales doesn't work.

"There's not a girl alive who wouldn't be happy being called cute." ~Tamamo-no-Mae
powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The crabby fussbudget
#77018: Jul 19th 2015 at 10:08:46 PM

Isn't Pikachu really the only household name for any of the Pokemon? And I mean people who are big into video games, people who are casual gamers, and people who don't play video games. That's what Level 0 is in my list.

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Sterok Since: Apr, 2012
#77019: Jul 19th 2015 at 10:10:05 PM

Mario and Pokemon are selling less due to hardware issues. Other series (on and off Nintendo platforms) have seen greater success these days. And what do you base success off of if not sales? Critical reception is nice, but that doesn't automatically translate to success. Brand revenue is the other thing I can think of, but I don't think we have those numbers.

Finally beat All Stars Hard with Fox. Thought I'd never be able to do that.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#77020: Jul 19th 2015 at 10:15:43 PM

Now try Meta Knight, Olimar, and Sheik. tongue

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Sterok Since: Apr, 2012
#77021: Jul 19th 2015 at 10:17:13 PM

I'm dreading Jigglypuff. Can you Hammer the beat All Stars Hard with everyone Challenge? Because that's the main one I don't want to have to bother with.

Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#77022: Jul 19th 2015 at 10:18:35 PM

Jiggs actually has a relatively easy time in All-Star- It can kill relatively fast with almost any of its aerials or Smashes.

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#77023: Jul 19th 2015 at 10:19:26 PM

Jigglypuff's not so bad, actually. Her excellent recovery means you run less chance of being unable to return to the stage, and her Smash Attacks pack enough punch.

The problem is characters whose Smash Attacks are really weak or have awkward hitboxes, like Duck Hunt.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#77024: Jul 19th 2015 at 10:23:19 PM

Olimar's the worst, though- All of his launchers are relatively weak within All-Star's mechanics and he doesn't have an ace-in-the-hole like Sheik's Up Smash.

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MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
Mr. Clueless
#77025: Jul 19th 2015 at 10:25:40 PM

It's possible to be worse at launching than Sonic?

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