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powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The crabby fussbudget
#76476: Jun 26th 2015 at 4:38:29 PM

Can we technically say that Young Link is back in the series because of the Fierce Deity alt?

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FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
feeling blue
#76477: Jun 26th 2015 at 5:28:06 PM

You know I just noticed that the Pokémon characters in Sm4sh are pretty consistent height and weight-wise in regards to their values in their series.

Except for one outlier in each.

In weight it's Mewtwo who's the second lightest

In height it's Greninja who's the shortest in the whole game.

edited 26th Jun '15 5:28:17 PM by FullMoon

MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
Mr. Clueless
#76478: Jun 26th 2015 at 5:33:36 PM

I thought we went over this. Greninja is constantly crouching.

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Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#76479: Jun 26th 2015 at 5:48:29 PM

And Mewtwo is constantly levitating, which allows faster movement but makes him easier to launch, or something.

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Numbuh1234 Since: Apr, 2014
#76480: Jun 26th 2015 at 7:01:25 PM

Perhaps Mewtwo looked at the metagame and figured being light was the way to go, while failing to realise that he should instead focus on crouching to have a smaller hitbox.

EDIT: There's also the possibility that it wasn't actually made for Smash - by which the scientists who made the ultimate weapon out of it didn't for a second think or know about how Smash even works. :P

edited 26th Jun '15 7:17:10 PM by Numbuh1234

MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
Mr. Clueless
#76481: Jun 26th 2015 at 7:07:33 PM

Just because you have psychic powers doesn't mean you're smart. I don't know why so much fiction conflates the two.

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Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#76482: Jun 26th 2015 at 7:09:50 PM

That one's pretty easy, actually- Both high intelligence and most depictions of psychic powers involve high levels of brain activity.

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#76483: Jun 26th 2015 at 7:16:06 PM

It would be funny to have a big brutish Dumb Muscle type who just so happens to have psychic powers, though.

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powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The crabby fussbudget
#76484: Jun 26th 2015 at 7:47:32 PM

Okay, Session 2 of my "All characters, all stages" run has ended, so here are the results:

CHARACTERS/STAGES USED:

  • Zelda (Port Town Aero Dive)
  • Sheik (Woolly World)
  • Ganondorf (Yoshi's Island)
  • Toon Link (Great Cave Offensive)
  • Samus (Halberd)
  • Zero Suit Samus (Orbital Gate Assault)
  • Pit (Lylat Cruise)
  • Palutena (Custom, Kalos Pokemon League)
  • Marth (Pokemon Stadium 2)
  • Ike (Onett)
  • Robin (Female, Colosseum)
  • Duck Hunt (Castle Siege)
  • Kirby (Flat Zone X)
  • King Dedede (Palutena's Temple)

Only replays not saved are for Pit and Ike.

WINS: All of them actually won. Little Mac is still the only character to have lost.

I'll tell you guys how I ended Ike's match:

My opponents for that one were Duck Hunt, Mario, and Mega Man. Mario is already out, but MM and Duck Hunt are on their last lives. I get the Smash Ball and unleash the Great Aether on them, winning the match.

All CP Us for this run are set to level 5 because I'll get destroyed if I attempt on level 9. Plus, they can still beat me on level 5 (like what happened with my Little Mac match. Though that is likely because that match was on Pyrosphere).

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Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#76485: Jun 26th 2015 at 7:55:08 PM

To be honest, Greninja doesn't look its height. (For reference, Delphox has the exact same height in the Pokedex).

Standing Greninja is taller than Lucario yet shorter than Charizard, like its given height.

And, after all, Wolf was larger than Fox but stood shorter.

edited 26th Jun '15 7:55:16 PM by Eriorguez

blkwhtrbbt The Dragon of the Eastern Sea from Doesn't take orders from Vladimir Putin Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
#76486: Jun 26th 2015 at 8:07:59 PM

It's the whole "mind powers thing".

Mind over Matter meets Charles Atlas Ability.

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FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
feeling blue
#76487: Jun 26th 2015 at 8:59:09 PM

Of course they would use Greninja in 71.

Fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#76488: Jun 26th 2015 at 11:48:51 PM

It would be funny to have a big brutish Dumb Muscle type who just so happens to have psychic powers, though.
I never even played the game, but the Orks from Warhammer 40k are actually one of my favorite fantasy concepts for exactly that reason. (Check the fourth paragraph and the example for "Clap Your Hands If You Believe".)

edited 26th Jun '15 11:49:51 PM by Fawriel

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#76489: Jun 27th 2015 at 6:48:32 AM

There are plenty of unintelligent Psychics in Pokemon. First and foremost Slowpoke and Slowbro, and Psyduck isn't part Psychic but has psychic powers and also counts.

BurntMario Oh hai TV Tropes from Your nightmares Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
Oh hai TV Tropes
#76490: Jun 27th 2015 at 9:04:56 AM

A similar situation occurs with the Dark type. Even though it's called the "Evil" type in Japan, most Dark-type Pokémon aren't really evil, just...misunderstood at worst. They share the same type mainly because of underhanded fighting tactics.

One example would be, of course, Greninja.

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FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
feeling blue
#76491: Jun 27th 2015 at 9:17:45 AM

Not that it stopped that one Conquest from labeling Greninja as a bad guy tongue

Eskay64 Since: Nov, 2010
#76492: Jun 27th 2015 at 9:38:25 AM

I still headcanon that Slowpoke and Slowbro are omniscient.

Ninety Absolutely no relation to NLK from Land of Quakes and Hills Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
Absolutely no relation to NLK
#76493: Jun 27th 2015 at 10:50:23 AM

If Robin returns for Smash 5, you know what's a good change I'd make (besides all the balance ones)? Change his down B from Nosferatu to Ignis.

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powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The crabby fussbudget
#76494: Jun 27th 2015 at 11:33:14 AM

Of all the third party characters, who is the most likely to return for Smash 5?

I think that Sonic is pretty much guaranteed to return for Smash Bros, but I'm not too sure about the other 3.

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Zarek Rollin' rollin' rollin' from Jakku Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Rollin' rollin' rollin'
#76495: Jun 27th 2015 at 11:35:41 AM

I could see Ignis as a final smash, but how would it work as a special? Would it be like Shulk's Monado Arts, a temporary stat alteration, or...?

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#76496: Jun 27th 2015 at 11:39:32 AM

Ryu I'm iffy on. Rest seem obvious to me. Pac-Man is far more iconic than Snake. Sonic is practically major friends with Nintendo now. And Mega Man is more iconic than Ryu overall(it's not a huge different in scale, though). Ryu still has a fair chance since Capcom is likely way easier to work with than Konami at this point. Likewise, Snake may come back for Smash 5 if Konami and Nintendo work together better. I doubt he'l be DLC, but it'd be nice.

Shadow?
strawberryflavored Since: Sep, 2010
#76497: Jun 27th 2015 at 11:56:07 AM

Yeah, Ryu's probably going the way of Snake. Especially since they seem to have similar reasons for inclusion.

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#76498: Jun 27th 2015 at 12:03:20 PM

Ignis would work as a special just like Aether does, pretty much.

Only it would involve a flare than leaves cherry blossoms in its wake or something.

Ninety Absolutely no relation to NLK from Land of Quakes and Hills Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
Absolutely no relation to NLK
#76499: Jun 27th 2015 at 12:29:02 PM

I was thinking temporary buff to physical attacks a la Monado Arts, yeah. It's too good not to use.

Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#76500: Jun 27th 2015 at 12:30:59 PM

I dunno, I kinda like devouring my enemies' life forces.

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