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MEKristian Since: Nov, 2009
#76251: Jun 21st 2015 at 9:54:56 PM

I share in this unpopular opinion.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#76252: Jun 21st 2015 at 9:55:57 PM

I wouldn't mind seeing Bandana Dee with a Spear moveset.

Maybe he could even inherit Dedede's old Final Smash.

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BurntMario Oh hai TV Tropes from Your nightmares Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#76253: Jun 21st 2015 at 10:00:37 PM

[up] I'm pretty sure they changed Dedede's Final Smash because his old one would have caused too much strain on the 3DS.

Bandana Dee could have Flare Beam from Return to Dream Land as his Final Smash. It'd sort of work like Volt Tackle except it'd have a smaller hitbox and be easier to control.

edited 21st Jun '15 10:02:06 PM by BurntMario

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Naspah Perpetually tired from My house in the middle of nowhere Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: Californicating
Perpetually tired
#76254: Jun 21st 2015 at 10:08:06 PM

Roy is like a version of Marth I can actually play, so I do like him but not more than Ryu.

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#76255: Jun 21st 2015 at 10:13:17 PM

[up] Pretty much the same for me. I think it all comes down to the playstyle that determines your preference—with sword users, unless they have projectiles (like both Links), I typically prefer melee combat. Roy is better for that because rushing down is highly encouraged with his playstyle.

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Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#76256: Jun 21st 2015 at 10:27:59 PM

Whereas I find his lack of range problematic- While he technically has more range than even Marth on some attacks, they're just bare nicks unless you're fighting at Ryu range.

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powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The crabby fussbudget
#76257: Jun 21st 2015 at 11:12:01 PM

Are Roy and Lucina easier to play as than Marth is?

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Customer Since: Sep, 2009
#76258: Jun 21st 2015 at 11:40:02 PM

Depends on the person, really. Between the three of them, I know that I prefer Marth over Lucina and Roy, but I can see why some Marth/Luci players would migrate to the Young Lion, especially disappointed Smash 4 Marth players, who seem to be among the base that's more pleased with Roy now that he's available.

For me though, Roy's characteristics don't really gel all that well with me, particularly because of his close-to-the-hilt sweet spot throws me off, even more than it did back in Melee.

edited 21st Jun '15 11:45:13 PM by Customer

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#76259: Jun 21st 2015 at 11:41:41 PM

Both are definitely more beginner friendly than Marth, but Marth is tough to master in general. Lucina has the lack of a tipper while Roy has the ph...you get the point.

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Naspah Perpetually tired from My house in the middle of nowhere Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: Californicating
Perpetually tired
#76260: Jun 22nd 2015 at 12:29:03 AM

Is it just me or Marth's and Lucina's attacks feel rather weak? I mean regardless of actual knockback and damage, they just don't feel right to me.

edited 22nd Jun '15 12:29:27 AM by Naspah

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#76261: Jun 22nd 2015 at 7:59:11 AM

Marth's tippers kill VERY early, but they are hard to pull off.

Roy's hilts work the same way, but pure melee characters have better range than his hilt attacks.

EDIT: They are attacks with a rapier, they are meant to convey elegance and finesse, damaging with surgical precission rather than with brute force.

edited 22nd Jun '15 8:03:05 AM by Eriorguez

powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The crabby fussbudget
#76262: Jun 22nd 2015 at 8:26:45 AM

Does anyone read my sig in Falco's Brawl voice?

I wish there was an update that gave Fox and Falco their Brawl sounds back.

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Alucart23 Since: Jun, 2015
#76263: Jun 22nd 2015 at 9:33:47 AM

[up] "hands off my bread!"

I actually like that

Ninety Absolutely no relation to NLK from Land of Quakes and Hills Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
Absolutely no relation to NLK
#76264: Jun 22nd 2015 at 9:52:25 AM

Marth's Side Smash kills at 60% and it's pretty much all he has.

Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.
Keybreak (Long Runner)
#76265: Jun 22nd 2015 at 1:36:45 PM

Roy is still my favorite of the latest package.

That comic didn't even show Lucas.

You know considering how big Nintendo's character gallery is, getting into Smash at all as a fighter, an Assist trophy, or just a regular trophy should be an honor.

You gotta believe me when I scare you away, all that I wish for is that you would stay
Dragon_Ranger Since: Jan, 2010
#76266: Jun 22nd 2015 at 2:38:17 PM

I find I really like playing as Roy. I find him to be a really great blend of Ike's power and Marth/Lucina's speed. My play style is definitely not defensive, so being able to rush in and beat down opponents is really satisfying.

Rather stupidly though, when I first downloaded Roy and immediately used him online, I got my ass kicked 0-3 against a Ryu. Pretty much all my deaths were just me falling off the stage, including getting the Smash Ball and just underestimating his ability to get back to the ledge.

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#76267: Jun 22nd 2015 at 4:42:55 PM

I really like Roy, too. I can handle him even better than Marth. (Usually...) Ryu's still my favorite out of the 6/14 Three, though.

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Dragon_Ranger Since: Jan, 2010
#76268: Jun 22nd 2015 at 5:06:27 PM

I didn't bother getting Lucas and Ryu. I can't even combo with Smash characters, and Ryu is basically meant to be a combo-machine. Ness (and Lucas by extension) just never really fit my play style.

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Too hot to hoot
#76269: Jun 22nd 2015 at 5:23:01 PM

@Keybreak, regarding Lucas: That's 'cause he'd already arrived with Mewtwo.

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Vertigo_High Since: May, 2010
#76270: Jun 22nd 2015 at 5:39:18 PM

Ryu is great, one of my favorites and probably my favorite 3rd party-er.

Roy proved me wrong. The guy is so, so much better than his melee incarnation that I can't even fathom they're the same guy. He's just right between Marth/Luci and Ike(one of my favorites) and plays really good.

Lucas MY BOY. He was my main in Brawl although the 3DS' idiotic analog makes him still unreliable for me to use as effectively as I want to. That said I still like him over Ness and he seems pretty close to how he was originally.

Mewtwo? Flat out sucks. I argue that Mewtwo is smash bros' worst interpretation of a character yet. He just feels completely wrong and doesn't do the character any justice at all. That said being Mewtwo alone kind of makes me want to use him, but jeez he needed a complete overhaul.

MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
Mr. Clueless
#76271: Jun 22nd 2015 at 5:45:23 PM

Mewtwo has immense psychic powers, able to destroy laboratories, create tornadoes, summon storms, shoot energy blasts, lift objects, and many, many other things.

Most of his attacks involve his tail.

Discuss.

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Demonfly birdie fairy Since: Jul, 2012
birdie fairy
#76272: Jun 22nd 2015 at 5:54:55 PM

he clearly just wants to run that fabled Physical Mega Mewtwo Y set

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BlitzTrain Since: Apr, 2014
#76273: Jun 22nd 2015 at 5:59:45 PM

Mewtwo infuses his tail with psychic energy when he attacks, obviously. tongue

powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The crabby fussbudget
#76274: Jun 22nd 2015 at 6:07:42 PM

I love all the DLC characters so far, but for ranking, I'd go with:

  1. Roy
  2. Mewtwo
  3. Ryu
  4. Lucas

Anyone find hypocrisy when someone hates it when others KO them because you used the same move yet spam moves themselves funny?

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Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#76275: Jun 22nd 2015 at 6:14:01 PM

Roy's probably my least favorite of the extras so far, but it's not that I even particularly dislike him, it's just that he adds the least of the four.

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