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Hungryguy I am a Rad Reptile. from inside a cheese wheel Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#75926: Jun 15th 2015 at 4:31:19 PM

So I got the three characters and the Dreamland stage and Ryu just doesn't seem to have a consistent movement speed or whatever. Like his up-b feels like it moves completely differently than the rest of him. Hitting Duck Hunt with down-b is hilarious though.

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powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#75927: Jun 15th 2015 at 4:48:43 PM

Yes, my friend used Shulk and whooped my ass when I was Ryu. So, Shulk is good counterpick to Ryu.

Also, my friend and I beat Master Core on difficulty 6.5. So that means that we didn't have to face Master Giant or Fortress. We only had Best/Edge/Shadow/true form.

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#75928: Jun 15th 2015 at 5:59:01 PM

[up] You can't fight Master Fortress in two-player Classic, anyway. You can only get as far as Master Shadow, even on 9.0.

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Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
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#75929: Jun 15th 2015 at 6:05:37 PM

If you have any range at all, or multi-hit attacks (so much for Focus Attack's hit of super armor), Ryu is in trouble.

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#75930: Jun 15th 2015 at 6:49:42 PM

Dag, you know you've been playing Super Smash Bros too much when you read a favorite childhood book, and, before you've even finished, you've imagined a moveset for the main character, including special moves, some aerials, and even a Final Smash.

Anyone else have this "problem"?

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MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
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#75931: Jun 15th 2015 at 7:38:35 PM

@Enlong: Does that include Fox? He's ranged, but they don't flinch anything.

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Demonfly birdie fairy Since: Jul, 2012
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#75932: Jun 15th 2015 at 7:51:45 PM

Illusion should do fine as well so long as you don't end up being predictable with it.

Though regardless, it's not like close-combat fighters are at some inherently crippling disadvantage against him either.

edited 15th Jun '15 7:52:12 PM by Demonfly

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FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#75933: Jun 15th 2015 at 7:56:54 PM

It's really weird to compare Jigglypuff and Greninja in height and find out that the latter is shorter.

edited 15th Jun '15 7:57:07 PM by FullMoon

Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
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#75934: Jun 15th 2015 at 8:01:48 PM

Nah. Fox's advantage is that he's too damn fast. He will have Ryu at 50% before he can say "What?" And Ryu's one ranged option is Fox's, due to reflector.

I learned this playing against a Fox in For Broken Dreams.

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#75935: Jun 15th 2015 at 8:15:41 PM

I came across a Ryu in For Glory that made some use out of Focus Attack Dash Cancel, doing it for movement (especially in the air), dodging, and to try and bait me out. It didn't cause me too much trouble (I was playing as Shulk), but it makes me wonder of the kind of crazy stuff folks could pull off eventually using that technique.

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#75936: Jun 15th 2015 at 8:19:25 PM

[up]x3 This is only when he's doing the Three-Point Landing stance, right?

edited 15th Jun '15 8:19:43 PM by Karxrida

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#75938: Jun 15th 2015 at 8:37:53 PM

Well, Jigglypuff's definitely been sized up. The 'dex says Jiggly's only about a foot tall, while Greninja's about five.

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#75939: Jun 15th 2015 at 8:38:50 PM

Ryu punching everyone.

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MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
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#75940: Jun 15th 2015 at 8:44:10 PM

@3:27 : Sonic is impatient to get punched in the face.

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#75941: Jun 15th 2015 at 8:44:33 PM

Like half of the heights listed for Pokemon in the Pokedex are totally crazy. The height comparison thing in ORAS' Pokedex definitely reaffirmed that to me. And it seems like no Pokemon media outside of the Pokedex actually follows what the heights are supposed to be.

edited 15th Jun '15 8:45:04 PM by Beorc

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Karxrida from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
#75942: Jun 15th 2015 at 8:49:33 PM

The games (bar Battle Revolution) don't follow it outside of the 'dex due to necessity. Stuff like Groudon is just to big to render in its "proper" size on the battlefield, while smaller things like Joltik would be impossible to see.

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#75943: Jun 15th 2015 at 8:55:13 PM

To be fair the heights in this game seem to be pretty accurate to the Pokédex when we take out Greninja. Pikachu < Jiggly < Lucario < Charizard (if you don't count the wings) < Mewtwo

We do have to consider the fact that Greninja is never really standing in this game, he's always crouching. If you walk with him near Lucario, you can see that he's taller than him even though he's not even standing upright.

Greninja is just smart enough to know that laying low is best in Smash.

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#75944: Jun 15th 2015 at 9:17:01 PM

@ 1:52- The Duck gives Ryu the evil eye

[up] Just wondering if you mean his standing pose or what. I don't run into Jigglypuff very often tongue

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#75946: Jun 15th 2015 at 9:53:09 PM

Greninja's always keeping a low profile, with the obvious corollary that it gets the least benefit from ducking- Compare that to Mr. Game & Watch or Jigglypuff, who can dodge many attacks thanks to their crouch reducing their profile so much.

Of course, Greninja also doesn't need to take defensive action to get the net benefits of crouching thanks to its naturally low profile, so yeah.

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#75947: Jun 15th 2015 at 10:18:36 PM

Well, that was grueling, but I've now cleared All-Star as everyone on Hard. I now hate Olimar with a blazing passion. Not only was he by far the hardest person to clear it as, but the enemy Olimar is easily the most dangerous foe in All-Star since for whatever reason his Pikmin attacks count as projectile attacks and thus aren't softened.

It's a terrible mode, but at least it's done now. And on top of that, I have all but two trophies now; Majora's Mask and FLUDD. I could use up my Golden Hammers now since there's only five hammer-able challenges left, but maybe I'll just try and not use any. Be legit.

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FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#75948: Jun 15th 2015 at 10:29:35 PM

Greninja still gets a lot of benefit out of crouching, do remember that unlike Jigglypuff, G&W and Kirby, Greninja can crawl, so he can capitalize more on the opportunities he gets from dodging an attack by crouching since he can close in on the opponent that way.

The character that gets the most benefits from crouching is WFT though.

Still, it's kinda crazy. Greninja has a low profile, good range, tied for best mobility in the game, hits hard and has a good projectile. The only thing holding him back is his moves being a bit slow and yet that alone makes a pretty balanced character with a good skill ceiling to him.

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#75949: Jun 15th 2015 at 10:31:37 PM

It's also a smidge on the light side and his recovery options are only so-so.

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#75950: Jun 15th 2015 at 10:41:08 PM

Every time I see collapsing states like that, I can't help but think of the sound a N64-era Dinolfos makes upon it's defeat, like here.

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