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Paperbritt Since: Apr, 2013
#75901: Jun 15th 2015 at 11:35:17 AM

Am I the only guy who likes the Wii U's classic mode? I mean yeah there was a charm to the originals arcade style and I'd totally love for the mini games to come back (though I've given up hoping for individualized break the targets because they'd have to make like 55+ of them so each character gets one), but I like the more streamlined risk reward format. So far this is the only Smash game where I've collected all the character trophies because the other classic modes could take up to 10 plus minutes (in particular I remember getting Fox in Brawl took me about 20.)

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#75902: Jun 15th 2015 at 11:36:41 AM

Am I the only guy who

Nope.

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#75903: Jun 15th 2015 at 11:37:16 AM

I really don't like Wii U's classic mode.

5+ person matches are annoying and awkward, I don't care for how randomized the Intruders and stage choices are, and to be honest I simply do not like the Intensity Scale system. Didn't like it back in Uprising, don't like it now.

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mrstack345 Paranormal Activity VII from Subspace Since: May, 2015 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
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#75904: Jun 15th 2015 at 11:37:41 AM

At this conjecture, Snake IMO has little if not no chance of ever coming back. Konami being Konami and Kojima's apparent bad blood with them sealed that deal.

On that note, Roy actually doesn't suck. He's pretty damn good.

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Demonfly birdie fairy Since: Jul, 2012
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#75905: Jun 15th 2015 at 11:39:48 AM

It means Snake has a chance of returning, if 3rd party DLC with their own stages is a thing.

Don't really see that much of a difference in probability.

On the other hand, this does amusingly make it more likely for more double-dipping 3rd-party characters to hop in. Shame that Klonoa and virtually all of the Sonic Sega characters aren't capable of any odds-skewing "special favors", though.

edited 15th Jun '15 11:40:54 AM by Demonfly

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#75906: Jun 15th 2015 at 11:41:00 AM

The bad blood between Kojima and Konami, and the latter losing their sanity, is a... complication, yeah. Hopefully something can be worked out, though. I miss Snake.

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Folt Warlock Necromancer from Hollow Bastion! >=D Since: Jun, 2010
Warlock Necromancer
#75907: Jun 15th 2015 at 11:47:04 AM

Wii U's Classic Mode with it's 5+ Player Free-for-Alls and Intruders and being launched easily in those 5+ Player Free-for-Alls resulting in easier kills for the opponents and generally being random as fuck can go fuck off.

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Watchtower Since: Jul, 2010
#75908: Jun 15th 2015 at 11:58:56 AM

[up][up] I'd say the latter means more than the former. Kojima being made the Un-person is fucking awful, but Nintendo and Konami could still possibly work something out on the business side. However, if Konami starts acting all batshit on them the chances for Snake (and, for that matter, others like Belmont) are next-to-none.

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#75909: Jun 15th 2015 at 12:05:22 PM

I like Wii U's classic mode.

Just keep me the hell away from Yoshi's Island.

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MEKristian Since: Nov, 2009
#75910: Jun 15th 2015 at 12:15:48 PM

New smashified video is up.

edited 15th Jun '15 12:16:29 PM by MEKristian

mrstack345 Paranormal Activity VII from Subspace Since: May, 2015 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
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#75911: Jun 15th 2015 at 12:20:35 PM

Now my want for Shantae has multiplied 1000-fold.

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Watchtower Since: Jul, 2010
#75912: Jun 15th 2015 at 12:56:26 PM

I've been wondering, could the Smashified stuff warrant a separate thread in the New Media section? Not trying to cut off any conversation, but there are a shit-ton of pages here, and it's easy for it to get lost.

Fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#75913: Jun 15th 2015 at 1:36:09 PM

... I hate to be a broken record here, but... any word on how Ryu is going to be not entirely overpowered? I mean, he has fast moves, he has combos, even without combos his moves do a crapload of damage, from what I hear he causes increased hit-stun but doesn't suffer it, he has options, he has some ridiculous KO moves, and his recovery might not even be that bad, so... uh.

The only thing I can see is that he's rather vulnerable in the air with his rather low-range aerials, and his recovery might be relatively easy to intercept?

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#75914: Jun 15th 2015 at 1:50:04 PM

He's hard to master though, so that compensates.

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#75915: Jun 15th 2015 at 1:56:32 PM

The Konami thing really irritates me because that's where Hudson Soft's assets went when they closed their doors. Now the chances for Bomberman or even someone like Master Higgins being in Smash are more slim than they were before.

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FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#75916: Jun 15th 2015 at 1:57:52 PM

Characters with long ranged/disjointed moves can keep Ryu away pretty well, such as Greninja and pretty much all the sword characters. Ryu also struggles against Sheik due to she pretty much not giving a damn about hadouken and hitting Ryu with needles all day.

Also Ryu's moves have a lot of hitlag on them from what I've heard, so his moves are less safe when they hit a shield than average.

MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
Mr. Clueless
#75917: Jun 15th 2015 at 2:12:22 PM

I'd say Lucas has (or, at least, had) disjointed hitboxes. Plus, Roy obviously uses a sword. So, to counter one DLC character, you can buy the other DLC characters. That's actually a pretty brilliant marketing scheme.

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FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#75918: Jun 15th 2015 at 2:24:15 PM

Lucas's moves are fairly short ranged overall even if they're disjointed so it's not as good. Roy also has the problem that the tip of his sword is weak so that could mean the spacing with it might not be as good as with Marth or Lucina.

I think the best bets against Ryu are Greninja and Shulk since they can both outspeed (with Speed art in Shulk's case) and outrange Ryu.

edited 15th Jun '15 2:26:50 PM by FullMoon

Fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#75919: Jun 15th 2015 at 2:30:48 PM

In other news, Lucas really is a lot of fun. grin

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Demonfly birdie fairy Since: Jul, 2012
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#75920: Jun 15th 2015 at 2:31:39 PM

Fittingly enough, Mewtwo of all things is also a surprisingly effective answer to the fighter.

But yeah, much like most fighting game shotos, he ends up being pretty predictable in drawn-out battles. Just get a feel for what he's going to do next and react accordingly, with the occasional camping session if you're feeling comfy.

He's hard to master though, so that compensates.

...That doesn't address anything concerning the character's strengths or flaws.

edited 15th Jun '15 2:34:11 PM by Demonfly

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FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#75921: Jun 15th 2015 at 2:38:40 PM

Ryu is definitely very powerful but I don't think he's going to be the new Meta Knight. Sheik still seems to be the queen of Sm4sh.

EdouardStrouduk from Earth. Physically at least. Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#75922: Jun 15th 2015 at 2:54:58 PM

[up][up] No, of course, but if he's going to be broken, it's still better that he has a steep learning curve. At least, it's rewarding, and not everybody is going to be able to spam him online with impunity.

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MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
Mr. Clueless
#75923: Jun 15th 2015 at 3:03:36 PM

It's the reason why Melee!Fox is less controversial than Brawl!Meta Knight or SSB 4!Diddy. Well, part of the reason.

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Demonfly birdie fairy Since: Jul, 2012
birdie fairy
#75924: Jun 15th 2015 at 3:11:07 PM

[up][up]Even then, I don't see it; I've been seeing dozens upon dozens of Ryus online the past several hours, and even without any combo know-how (keep in mind that several of these are also aware of the command inputs as well), they're all still PITAs to KO.

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EdouardStrouduk from Earth. Physically at least. Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#75925: Jun 15th 2015 at 3:17:44 PM

Well, I don't think he's that hard to use, but I'll say he's still not as cheap as Diddy used to be.

Then again, I don't know, when Mewtwo was released, I've seen plenty of people calling him OP as well, before finding out that he does have some severe weaknesses, so I think it's too early to decide. We'll see how the metagame evolves.

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