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LinkToTheFuture A real bad hombre from somewhere completely different Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
A real bad hombre
#75026: May 31st 2015 at 10:42:29 PM

[up]Yeah.smile

Anyway, my main weaknesses are my inability to smash attack, my not knowing how to do aerials, and forgetting that grabbing even exists, and not knowing what to do upon grabbing. I get grabbed all the time.

edited 31st May '15 10:42:44 PM by LinkToTheFuture

"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work." -Thomas Edison
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#75027: May 31st 2015 at 10:42:49 PM

[up][up][up][up]Expect to see a lot of Little Macs Jolt Haymakering to their deaths.

Jolt Haymaker is the #1 cause of death in Little Macs aged 14-21.

edited 31st May '15 10:43:45 PM by Anomalocaris20

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
HeavyDDR Who's Vergo-san. from Central Texas Since: Jul, 2009
Who's Vergo-san.
#75028: May 31st 2015 at 10:45:26 PM

The idea for Kirby and Dedede is to just inhale them when Little Mac gets close, and spit them off the edge. Repeat as Little Mac attempts to recover, because he has very few ways to get back to the stage. Alternate between that and grabs as necessary.

Dedede can also just swing out his rapid hammer and wait for Little Mac to be brave. Against any 2fast2quick character, this works waaaaaaaay, waaaaaaay too often at the beginning of a match. I really need to upload my replay of "Every King Dedede vs. Falcon" match. It just covered all the basics.

I'm pretty sure the concept of Law having limits was a translation error. -Wanderlustwarrior
strawberryflavored Since: Sep, 2010
#75029: May 31st 2015 at 10:48:02 PM

[up][up][up] It may be worth your while to invest in training against other humans in For Fun as well. The CP Us are good, but nothing compares to actual human players. At least in For Fun you don't have rankings.

edited 31st May '15 10:48:22 PM by strawberryflavored

LinkToTheFuture A real bad hombre from somewhere completely different Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
A real bad hombre
#75030: May 31st 2015 at 10:49:58 PM

[up][up][up]I totally get the image of a Mac player as a 14-year-old noob who thinks he's all MLG-like, and who uses their real name.

Because I am most definitely not a 14-year-old noob who uses my real name, no way, not at all.

edited 31st May '15 10:50:10 PM by LinkToTheFuture

"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work." -Thomas Edison
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#75031: May 31st 2015 at 10:50:35 PM

What I like to do as Dedede is just lounge in his crouch pose. Then when the opponent gets close to investigate, keep using the down-tilt. Catch someone off guard and you can sweep them right off the stage.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#75032: May 31st 2015 at 10:54:46 PM

That's nearly as great as tossing a bunch of Clay Shooting hits out as Duck Hunt then, once they seem to have your rhythm down, using the side taunt, the lounge-n-laff as they block a hit that never comes.

edited 31st May '15 10:55:08 PM by Pulse

I sure said that!
LinkToTheFuture A real bad hombre from somewhere completely different Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
A real bad hombre
#75033: May 31st 2015 at 10:58:25 PM

Just out of curiosity, is it possible to tipper Counter? It's not something I plan on doing, but still nice to know.

"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work." -Thomas Edison
HeavyDDR Who's Vergo-san. from Central Texas Since: Jul, 2009
Who's Vergo-san.
#75034: May 31st 2015 at 11:45:15 PM

I used to Dedede crouch-bait all the time at the beginning of matches but it reached a point where I just felt bad getting a 19% or more headstart on someone who thought they had gotten a silly opponent to play with.

I do, however, make gratuitous use of laying down as a taunt, or when I'm tired of trying to approach camping Villagers. Sends people into a rage to charge me down. The best is when you get a stock lead, lay down on one side, they charge you, and you Dededecide off with them. Some people just don't seem to know.

I also like laying down because I can't do that little dish-and-dash thing people do, which is fine by me because it accomplishes nothing and looks awkward as hell. More fitting for Dedede to just plop down and take a breather.

I'm pretty sure the concept of Law having limits was a translation error. -Wanderlustwarrior
Kuroxeng Moved accounts because meh from error 040 Since: Mar, 2015
Moved accounts because meh
#75035: Jun 1st 2015 at 2:14:29 AM

So, has the option to use A+B to smash always been there, or was it added in the last update?

I still think it's incredibly silly that you can't save control settings universally for the save file, but are required to have name tags to save them.

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HeavyDDR Who's Vergo-san. from Central Texas Since: Jul, 2009
Who's Vergo-san.
#75036: Jun 1st 2015 at 2:27:11 AM

A+B to smash attack got added in the last update, and you can turn it on/off on the control set-up.

Also I don't think that's silly at all, it makes sense to have a universal control system as a default so that people can hop on a friend's game, not make a name, and know what the controls are. I know a lot of serious smashers love to maximize and change their set-up but I'm positive a majority of people play with vanilla controls.

I'm pretty sure the concept of Law having limits was a translation error. -Wanderlustwarrior
Kuroxeng Moved accounts because meh from error 040 Since: Mar, 2015
Moved accounts because meh
#75037: Jun 1st 2015 at 3:00:09 AM

The tap to jump is really the only thing I like to change.

Nearly impossible for me to even attempt any upwards attacks with it on without jumping instead.

Which is a big problem with u-airs.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#75038: Jun 1st 2015 at 4:19:40 AM

If you're attempting a U-air...you're going to be jumping again anyway, that's almost always the case I find.

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Kuroxeng Moved accounts because meh from error 040 Since: Mar, 2015
Moved accounts because meh
#75039: Jun 1st 2015 at 4:26:48 AM

There are times I want u-air, jump and whatever else fits the bill after that.

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LinkToTheFuture A real bad hombre from somewhere completely different Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
A real bad hombre
#75040: Jun 1st 2015 at 5:22:48 AM

What are good strategies against Nesses? My best friend is a Ness main who likes to spam the same combo (PK Fire spam->grab->Dthrow->Uair) all the time. What can I do to counter that?

"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work." -Thomas Edison
powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The crabby fussbudget
#75041: Jun 1st 2015 at 5:46:57 AM

Sad to say, I can't really help you as none of my friends really use Ness.

AAAAUUUUGGGHHHH!!!!
HeavyDDR Who's Vergo-san. from Central Texas Since: Jul, 2009
Who's Vergo-san.
#75042: Jun 1st 2015 at 6:36:54 AM

Shield PK Fire. Get better at perfect shielding and predicting that attack so you can block it, then run in for a grab/attack of your own. PK Fire has a long end leg attached to it so it's pretty easy to dodge and punish.

If you're Marth, spam counter on the up-airs/forward-airs if you do get caught. Don't counter PK Fire, obviously, just follow the above guidance. Beyond that, I'm pretty sure Marth can out-range Ness in the air, so approach with forward-airs if he's trying to push with that.

I'm pretty sure the concept of Law having limits was a translation error. -Wanderlustwarrior
Kuroxeng Moved accounts because meh from error 040 Since: Mar, 2015
Moved accounts because meh
#75043: Jun 1st 2015 at 8:07:47 AM

As they said, just block or avoid the initial PK fire. If you can get past it to Ness himself, you have an opening right there.

If you block the initial PKF, he will most likely try a dash grab while your shield is up. Spot dodge (shield+down, strict timing) or roll and punish. If he isn't running at you, he most likely will try another PKF.

BTW, PK Spark, if he ever uses it, can be Countered. If you're close enough for the Counter to hit, Ness is gonna have a bad time.

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LinkToTheFuture A real bad hombre from somewhere completely different Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
A real bad hombre
#75044: Jun 1st 2015 at 8:08:10 AM

Thanks.

I'll get him next time evil grin

"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work." -Thomas Edison
Kuroxeng Moved accounts because meh from error 040 Since: Mar, 2015
Moved accounts because meh
#75045: Jun 1st 2015 at 8:12:49 AM

A general tip with Marth, Lucina, Lucario, Greninja, Ike, Palutena, Peach, Little Mac and possibly someone I forgot:

If caught in a combo, counters are your best chance at breaking them.

... Now we need a Smash Bros C-C-C-COMBO Breaker montage.

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#75046: Jun 1st 2015 at 8:14:44 AM

Is the DLC character poll still open?

Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#75047: Jun 1st 2015 at 8:35:03 AM

I think it ends around October 2015. I forget where it actually said this, though.

Shadow?
LinkToTheFuture A real bad hombre from somewhere completely different Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
A real bad hombre
#75048: Jun 1st 2015 at 8:58:14 AM

I'm still having trouble putting the finisher on people. I got someone up to like 140% and couldn't kill them.

"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work." -Thomas Edison
FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
feeling blue
#75049: Jun 1st 2015 at 9:30:03 AM

If caught in a combo with Greninja the last thing you want to do is try to Substitute your way out, Shadow Sneak is a lot more safe though that isn't saying much.

LinkToTheFuture A real bad hombre from somewhere completely different Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
A real bad hombre
#75050: Jun 1st 2015 at 9:31:55 AM

I tried countering in the middle of combos but it worked maybe once.

Anyway, I just can't put the finisher on people.

Questions:

In what situations do I grab?

How do I get out of a projectile spammer like Fox, Falco, or Link?

Does Marth have any combos?

edited 1st Jun '15 9:33:54 AM by LinkToTheFuture

"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work." -Thomas Edison

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