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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#74951: May 29th 2015 at 6:39:57 PM

EXPAND FACE

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
kablammin45 Catch my shiny metal birb! from Misty Brook (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Catch my shiny metal birb!
#74952: May 29th 2015 at 6:56:09 PM

....uh....how did that happen? Brings back memories of that one poor guy's game that went haywire.

"I'm glad I don't wear shoes or else I'd have to always get shoes in two different sizes. ...If you know, you know!"
Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#74953: May 29th 2015 at 7:33:15 PM

That's one feature length.

Finally got a Pac-Man Amiibo, and Silver Mario to boot. Now to find out if it's possible to get a Metal Cap Equipment(which starts you off as Metal temporarily). I know you can start with multiple items, but I'm guessing status effects might not be the case, especially transformation ones.

That said, it'll be my Mario Party 10 Amiibo if not. Still awesome, since he pretty much is Metal Mario. Even the Gamestop employee who I talked to when I bought it loved the idea.

Shadow?
LinkToTheFuture A real bad hombre from somewhere completely different Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
A real bad hombre
#74954: May 29th 2015 at 9:25:12 PM

I just played my first online matches today.

Can anyone tell me if there is a good way to learn how to counter? (I've been using Marth)

"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work." -Thomas Edison
strawberryflavored Since: Sep, 2010
#74955: May 29th 2015 at 10:21:25 PM

Predict what's coming, and counter. Also helps if you don't use it more than twice in a row. It's all about reading your opponent(s) moves.

Kuroxeng Moved accounts because meh from error 040 Since: Mar, 2015
Moved accounts because meh
#74956: May 29th 2015 at 10:30:16 PM

Prediction and not spamming it.

Some opponents will pick up on your counter habit, others won't.

Remember: grabs can't be countered! Use that if your opponent spams them!

And if you get caught in a rapid attack, try spamming the move, depending on the situation it might trigger.

I find counters landing more often in free for alls, possibly due to everyone paying attention to three opponents at once.

Moved handles because meh
Demonfly birdie fairy Since: Jul, 2012
birdie fairy
#74957: May 29th 2015 at 10:39:11 PM

[up][up][up]Specifically, try to take note of any patterns and habits that the opponent uses for offense, and see if you can manage a Counter in the middle of it and throw the strategy off.

I'd strongly advise that you don't get as attached to it as your post is suggesting, though; Counters themselves are remarkably easy to read and ruin - especially if the user is already in an unfavorable situation that would theoretically demand one - and for certain characters (Marth included, I believe) you still have to put up with a slight yet very noticeable and very vulnerable delay before the counter even functions as an actual counter.

edited 29th May '15 10:40:32 PM by Demonfly

"Tell them to shut up and have some faith in me." - dead flashback guy
randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#74958: May 29th 2015 at 10:52:57 PM

[up][up]...Counters can't be grabbed.

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Demonfly birdie fairy Since: Jul, 2012
birdie fairy
#74959: May 29th 2015 at 11:00:21 PM

Where do you get that from? It's the number one way to take them out when done on the ground if you want something done fast and reliably.

"Tell them to shut up and have some faith in me." - dead flashback guy
Naspah Perpetually tired from My house in the middle of nowhere Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: Californicating
Perpetually tired
#74960: May 29th 2015 at 11:11:46 PM

Heh, amiibos don't stand a chance against me now. PROGRESS!

Also For Glory winrate is at 49.89% and apparently I've Falcon Dunked people 69 times.

edited 29th May '15 11:25:59 PM by Naspah

Kuroxeng Moved accounts because meh from error 040 Since: Mar, 2015
Moved accounts because meh
#74961: May 29th 2015 at 11:30:01 PM

Falcon Dunk?

Mid air Raptor Boost or whatever it's called?

Moved handles because meh
Naspah Perpetually tired from My house in the middle of nowhere Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: Californicating
Perpetually tired
#74962: May 29th 2015 at 11:33:26 PM

It counts up tilts too it seems.

edited 29th May '15 11:34:50 PM by Naspah

Kuroxeng Moved accounts because meh from error 040 Since: Mar, 2015
Moved accounts because meh
#74963: May 29th 2015 at 11:38:32 PM

Oh, the heel crush.

With the word "dunk" using ones feet doesn't sound right.

Heck, at first I wondered if you meant the stomping d-air. "But why call that a dunk?"

Moved handles because meh
Naspah Perpetually tired from My house in the middle of nowhere Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: Californicating
Perpetually tired
#74964: May 29th 2015 at 11:39:28 PM

I dunno it seemed catchy.

edited 29th May '15 11:39:42 PM by Naspah

Kuroxeng Moved accounts because meh from error 040 Since: Mar, 2015
Moved accounts because meh
#74965: May 29th 2015 at 11:41:39 PM

Wellp, now I'm calling aerial raptor boost "Falcon Dunk"

... And I can't get that stupidly catchy quad city DJ's song out of my head now.

Moved handles because meh
Naspah Perpetually tired from My house in the middle of nowhere Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: Californicating
Perpetually tired
#74966: May 29th 2015 at 11:42:22 PM

COME ON AND SLAM AND WELCOME TO THE SMASH!

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#74967: May 29th 2015 at 11:54:00 PM

Counters can't be grabbed until invincibility frames wear off, which pretty much happens a whole second later.

Rules of the Internet 45. Rule 45 is a lie. Check out my art if you notice.
Naspah Perpetually tired from My house in the middle of nowhere Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: Californicating
Perpetually tired
#74968: May 29th 2015 at 11:57:15 PM

That doesn't sound right.

Demonfly birdie fairy Since: Jul, 2012
birdie fairy
#74969: May 30th 2015 at 12:29:25 AM

Counters don't have invincibility frames to begin with; they absorb attacks as opposed to ignoring them.

Regardless, claiming that a grab only works after the counter wears off is a pretty pointless statement when the move is completely vulnerable to virtually anything for the length of a whole second.

And to put this to bed:

For about a second, any attack they are struck by (other than a grab) will turn them invincible for the duration of their retaliating swing.

edited 30th May '15 12:40:26 AM by Demonfly

"Tell them to shut up and have some faith in me." - dead flashback guy
HeavyDDR Who's Vergo-san. from Central Texas Since: Jul, 2009
Who's Vergo-san.
#74970: May 30th 2015 at 3:29:31 AM

The only counter I can think that can stop grabs is Lucario's Double Team, which is unique in that for the first split second of it being active, he can't be grabbed. On the bright side though, it's pretty hard not to attempt a grab immediately after and get him if you missed that first time.

I'm pretty sure the concept of Law having limits was a translation error. -Wanderlustwarrior
FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
feeling blue
#74971: May 30th 2015 at 8:36:15 AM

Greninja, Palutena and Lucario do have invencibility frames on their counters that don't allow them to be grabbed for a little while.

edited 30th May '15 8:36:55 AM by FullMoon

powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The crabby fussbudget
#74972: May 30th 2015 at 9:55:18 AM

So, did anyone get any of the amiibos from the Amazon thing last night?

I tried and failed to get Lucina. I'm gonna have to import her...which is good as she's under $40 imported plus free shipping.

AAAAUUUUGGGHHHH!!!!
strawberryflavored Since: Sep, 2010
#74973: May 30th 2015 at 11:03:03 AM

I was able to get Robin from them after my Tiger Direct order for him was canceled.

FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
feeling blue
#74974: May 30th 2015 at 11:25:55 AM

This Up-Smash is so ridic

Greninja has the best mobility in the game (kinda tied with ZSS) and hits like a heavyweight =V

edited 30th May '15 11:26:15 AM by FullMoon

TroPartner Since: Nov, 2014
#74975: May 30th 2015 at 11:31:10 AM

That spacing is incredible. I think I've managed to get that type of precision somewhat with Pit's dash attack—it reaches a bit farther than opponents usually suspect.


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