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Sterok Since: Apr, 2012
#74076: May 4th 2015 at 8:15:02 PM

Inkling will not be be in Smash 4 as a playable character. The DLC characters have probably been mostly decided, with a couple spots left open for whoever is popular and reasonable. Splatoon is too new to get a spot in Smash, and unless Sakurai is forced to add them (unlikely seeing how much control he has), he won't put them in until after they've earned their place. And of course, Smash 5 needs its new characters, and Inkling will be the perfect frontliner for that, like Villager was.

Now a Splatoon stage I could see. Easy to add, and standards are much lower overall.

Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#74077: May 4th 2015 at 8:19:47 PM

Yeah, the most I can see from Splatoon being added in Smash 4 is a stage or an Assist. Trophies are what I think are most likely if they do indeed get anything, though. DLC so far seems mostly to be returning cut veterans.

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mrsunshinesprinkles Forever Gorgeous from Somewhere, crying Since: Jan, 2012
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#74078: May 4th 2015 at 8:27:58 PM

The key component is that Splatoon hasn't been out yet, while most Smashers have some sort of legacy to them.

The buzz and hype for it is huge, but Smash is generally a masturbatory celebration of the best of Ninty's line-up, and the legacies they left behind.

"Curry killed the pussy hoping that I could kill the hate in you" - Curry, D. "TABOO | TA13OO." TA13OO, PH, 2018
mrsunshinesprinkles Forever Gorgeous from Somewhere, crying Since: Jan, 2012
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#74080: May 4th 2015 at 8:42:47 PM

[up]And a hole has been poked on that argument. Though the 12 or so people who did manage to get a copy of the damn thing loved the shit out of it, and now everyone loves it, with the magic of digital distribution.

edited 4th May '15 9:08:43 PM by mrsunshinesprinkles

"Curry killed the pussy hoping that I could kill the hate in you" - Curry, D. "TABOO | TA13OO." TA13OO, PH, 2018
MEKristian Since: Nov, 2009
#74081: May 4th 2015 at 8:48:30 PM

Honestly, we can speculate with what's said in interviews and and general logic until we're all blue in the face, but in the end, the choices will most likely be at Sakurai's discretion so anything that's video game character is possible.

Heck, Roy's game wasn't released until after Melee, so even if it's a character we don't want, we can't count the possibility out until it's all said and done, no?

Sterok Since: Apr, 2012
#74082: May 4th 2015 at 9:09:34 PM

Roy was a clone of a character and part of an already popular franchise. He isn't comparable to a character whose franchise has not been playable to the general public at all yet.

As for Xenoblade, it was a critical darling, and they were impressed with the western sales. Still didn't do much, but the existence of Xenoblade 3D and X show that Nintendo cares about the franchise and wants it to grow. I personally suspect Shulk was one of the mandated characters that had to be put in.

edited 4th May '15 9:09:53 PM by Sterok

mrsunshinesprinkles Forever Gorgeous from Somewhere, crying Since: Jan, 2012
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#74083: May 4th 2015 at 9:13:20 PM

To be fair, FE wasn't an unknown property by then; it was already pretty well-loved by the gaming crowd in Jap-

[up]Curses, you beat me to it.

edited 4th May '15 9:13:53 PM by mrsunshinesprinkles

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Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#74084: May 4th 2015 at 10:04:32 PM

Also, MONOLITH needed a bone thrown to 'em- After all, Nintendo's the first parent company they've had that hasn't hassled them to some degree or another, so may as well celebrate the company that makes weird plot twister games with Xeno- or Kaitos in the title, especially since Smash 4 was developed in tandem with Namco, who own a good chunk of their back catalog- It got us the remix of The valedictorian elegy, at least.

edited 4th May '15 10:06:10 PM by Pulse

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TechPowah Just a simple hero from the room down the hall Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#74085: May 5th 2015 at 12:20:15 AM

There's still the Woolly World stage that we got before that game's release.

edited 5th May '15 12:20:45 AM by TechPowah

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#74086: May 5th 2015 at 12:30:23 AM

I've been thinking, if the Inklings do make appearances as DLC Smashers they could end up being another first for a kind of fighter in the series (this game has quite a few of those) - one whose primary ability is modifying the environment to strengthen themselves.

I was thinking the Inkling's ink would stick to the floor, walls or obstacles on the stage. They would have light and have lower damage output than most characters, but could have a special, much faster dash on painted surfaces which would include being able to run up walls, and some other buffs when standing on painted surfaces. Enemies could also be tagged with paint, giving Inkling attacks more damage against them or in some cases special properties (for example, just doing the special dash on an inked floor into an inked enemy could do damage and knockback). Most of their specials could spread paint in various ways, and maybe the Down B could change weapons a la the Monado (some do more damage, some spread paint better).

So you get a character who is so-so normally but becomes much more effective if the player knows how to use the paint mechanic correctly.

edited 5th May '15 12:31:41 AM by KnownUnknown

Folt Warlock Necromancer from Hollow Bastion! >=D Since: Jun, 2010
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#74087: May 5th 2015 at 3:25:58 AM

[up][up] Yoshi's kind of in the same spot as Fire Emblem, actually. The Yoshi series might be indistinguishable from the Mario series or not be as well known, but I still think it's more known than Splatoon or even Xenoblade Chronicles.

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Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#74088: May 5th 2015 at 6:04:10 AM

Yoshi's in a weird spot, and perhaps moreover has always been in a bit of a weird spot, in how divorced (or not) it is from the "main" Mario Bros series. DK and Wario are both decidedly more on their own.

And yeah, I get the feeling the Wooly World stage was made in anticipation of a much earlier release than game eventually had, so I'd not draw too much from that.

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mrsunshinesprinkles Forever Gorgeous from Somewhere, crying Since: Jan, 2012
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#74089: May 5th 2015 at 6:34:25 AM

@Pulse: Unrelated and really really stupid, but christ, I once thought Monolith and MONOLITH were the same company.

And considering what games former makes, that's a pretty dumb mix up.

"Curry killed the pussy hoping that I could kill the hate in you" - Curry, D. "TABOO | TA13OO." TA13OO, PH, 2018
Paperbritt Since: Apr, 2013
#74090: May 5th 2015 at 6:58:17 AM

So fun fact speaking of Monolith Soft, apparently they did some work on Brawl towards the end of its development (around the time Nintendo would have acquired them). Which makes it kinda weird they had no involvement with Wii U/3DS besides allowing Xenoblade IP in the game.

Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#74091: May 5th 2015 at 7:04:44 AM

[up][up]This is why it's important to style corporate names as considered standard for them. It's also why I always write those really odd devs under Nintendo's wing as skip or skip ltd.

[up]Didn't one of their composers help, at least? Or am I remembering wrong?

Then again, between part-timing with EAD for the new Zelda game and Xenoblade X, you can't say they haven't been busy.

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FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Numbuh1234 Since: Apr, 2014
#74093: May 5th 2015 at 8:03:15 AM

Wow... I should really duck more often.

Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#74094: May 5th 2015 at 8:36:22 AM

Manhole is the best thing. Spitball Sparky's pretty great, too.

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Kuroxeng Moved accounts because meh from error 040 Since: Mar, 2015
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#74095: May 5th 2015 at 9:56:02 AM

D-tilt or maybe d-air. Problem solved.

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Nap1100 Since: Mar, 2012
#74096: May 5th 2015 at 10:06:31 AM

Dtilts probably won't kill, and dairs are really risky as they tend to have long ending lag, especially if they miss.

FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#74097: May 5th 2015 at 10:37:52 AM

Well, Greninja's D-Tilt won't kill, but what comes out of it certainly does.

I need to keep in mind that sometimes walking is better than running. D-Tilt combined with Greninja's really fast walk speed is so good.

Kuroxeng Moved accounts because meh from error 040 Since: Mar, 2015
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#74098: May 5th 2015 at 12:19:05 PM

It's always so hard to walk instead of dash. Damn stick is too eager to take any movement faster than an old snail as "quick tap to EXTREME SPEEDING!"

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MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
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#74099: May 5th 2015 at 12:40:59 PM

The faster a character is, the harder it is for them to pick up items. They just slide right past it.

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Keybreak (Long Runner)
#74100: May 5th 2015 at 3:34:23 PM

Got some more amiibos...

But horror! Sonic is Japanese! His box does not fit in with the rest!

He is differentttt...

...the Internet is telling me that he'll play on an American system same as the rest, but my uniformity has been ruined. X| I'm tempted to mail it back and order an English one.

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