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powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#73651: Apr 24th 2015 at 5:52:15 AM

Smash takes several liberties with height and weight. Lucina is taller than Robin here, and Kirby is supposed to be no bigger than a penny.

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Eskay64 Since: Nov, 2010
#73652: Apr 24th 2015 at 6:03:48 AM

If real physics applied in the first place, everyone would fall at almost the same speed anyway, except for the aforementioned levitating characters and probably Jigglypuff and possibly Kirby. Hell, the levitating characters wouldn't fall in the first place.

edited 24th Apr '15 6:10:10 AM by Eskay64

FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#73653: Apr 24th 2015 at 6:10:06 AM

And Peach wouldn't have a recovery or a float mechanic tongue

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#73654: Apr 24th 2015 at 6:11:55 AM

Yeah, disregard what I said, it is freaking Smash, it doesn't require logic in those department, just being fun and balanced.

Eskay64 Since: Nov, 2010
#73655: Apr 24th 2015 at 6:13:01 AM

Exactly, all they need is Floaty A Is Floaty A. :P

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#73656: Apr 24th 2015 at 6:16:12 AM

So what's better about Smash 4's Mewtwo?

When I saw the reveal for Mewtwo in Project M, I thought that that Peach-esque float mechanic would be a smart way to handle his floatiness.

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#73657: Apr 24th 2015 at 7:07:04 AM

It is faster, and its aerials don't cancel its second jump, so they can be used in creative ways. It also feels quite solid through and through.

FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#73658: Apr 24th 2015 at 7:24:53 AM

Also being able to airdodge more than once in the air really helps Mewtwo last longer.

... Being just barely heavier than Jigglypuff doesn't though.

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#73659: Apr 24th 2015 at 7:45:35 AM

So I've been wondering, who is the oldest character in this game? Not as in when they debuted, but their actual age.

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#73660: Apr 24th 2015 at 7:48:16 AM

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#73661: Apr 24th 2015 at 7:50:07 AM

Ganondorf goes back eras. If he were mortal he'd look...maybe 50?

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FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#73662: Apr 24th 2015 at 7:51:05 AM

I'm guessing Palutena since she's a goddess and all that.

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#73663: Apr 24th 2015 at 7:51:23 AM

Rosalina and Palutena are also quite old.

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#73664: Apr 24th 2015 at 7:54:32 AM

I think Palutena's older than Rosalina. Rosalina remembers being a little girl and Palutena being explicitly a goddess may mean she was never human.

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BlitzTrain Since: Apr, 2014
#73665: Apr 24th 2015 at 9:08:38 AM

Well this is weird, I can't go online with Sm4sh 3DS any more. It keeps saying I need an update to play (I've got version 1.06) and then it keeps running into errors when it tries to find the update.

It was working just fine yesterday, anyone else having problems like that?

edited 24th Apr '15 9:08:54 AM by BlitzTrain

Laniv Since: Aug, 2010
#73666: Apr 24th 2015 at 9:12:28 AM

[up] You might need to upgrade to version 1.0.7, which fixes the bug about 10-Man Smash with Mewtwo.

BlitzTrain Since: Apr, 2014
#73667: Apr 24th 2015 at 9:36:55 AM

Glad to hear there actually IS an update, not just something glitching out on me.

Re-read the error message, turns out I had to do a system update to the 3DS before I could update Sm4sh. I just thought it was telling me I had to update Sm4sh again for some reason, update downloading now!

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#73668: Apr 24th 2015 at 10:44:51 AM

Wow, given the... not-exactly-appealing (in the face area at least) image they used for him, the amiibo I got of Robin looks almost exactly like him and nothing like it. I'm impressed... and rather happy.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#73669: Apr 24th 2015 at 11:11:47 AM

If Palutena is based on Athena, and the world of Uprising is based on Ancient Greece, Palutena's age might be... interesting.

She would at least be younger than Hades and, amusingly enough, Viridi as well if she's based off of Demeter.

Though she's still the oldest character in Smash, yeah.

edited 24th Apr '15 11:12:04 AM by KnownUnknown

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#73670: Apr 24th 2015 at 11:19:30 AM

Okay then, so who would be the youngest?

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IrishZombie Since: Dec, 2009
#73671: Apr 24th 2015 at 11:24:02 AM

Hard to say. Any of the Pokémon available could be as little as a few hours old. Well, other than Mewtwo, but even he couldn't have been out of that tank for more than a few years when he debuted in Melee.

Failing that, maybe Kirby or Bowser Jr.?

Eskay64 Since: Nov, 2010
#73672: Apr 24th 2015 at 11:30:37 AM

Taking into account all characters in the series — playable or otherwise — it would either be Arceus or Dialga who's oldest. I say the latter because, even though he was born after Arceus, the whole time travel thing might offset it by a few millenia or something. Palutena is still the oldest playable, though.

edited 24th Apr '15 11:31:18 AM by Eskay64

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#73673: Apr 24th 2015 at 11:30:47 AM

I don't know if Right Back at Ya! is considered canon to the games, but if it is Kirby could already be older than much of the cast.

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Fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#73674: Apr 24th 2015 at 11:33:30 AM

"Realistically", the weaker the Pokemon is, the older it would have to be to train enough to compete with the likes of Mewtwo.

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#73675: Apr 24th 2015 at 11:37:08 AM

If we assume that Mewtwo was born the very same year that the games were released, 1996 in Japan I believe, not sure though, then wouldn't he be 19 or something?

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