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Folt Warlock Necromancer from Hollow Bastion! >=D Since: Jun, 2010
Warlock Necromancer
#73501: Apr 22nd 2015 at 2:46:34 PM

@Folt: Oh my god are you serious. Did you just write an entire dissertation on this. Did that just happen.

He wanted points, and I gave them. Simple as that.

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Eskay64 Since: Nov, 2010
#73502: Apr 22nd 2015 at 2:47:12 PM

As curious as I may be, I can only see such a topic ending in even more pointless whining than we've already gotten, so I'll put my vote in for not arguing about that.

powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The crabby fussbudget
#73503: Apr 22nd 2015 at 2:47:28 PM
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Keybreak (Long Runner)
#73504: Apr 22nd 2015 at 2:49:55 PM

Kirby is the only fighter who Mega Mans in this game, even though Mega Man is now in it.

So really it should be called Kirbying.

edited 22nd Apr '15 2:50:05 PM by Keybreak

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Demonfly birdie fairy Since: Jul, 2012
birdie fairy
#73505: Apr 22nd 2015 at 2:50:34 PM

[up][up][up]I wouldn't say that, since such an argument is even easier to mercilessly cripple refute.

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BurntMario Oh hai TV Tropes from Your nightmares Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#73506: Apr 22nd 2015 at 2:51:14 PM

Isn't Villager's Pocket move another form of Power Copying?

edited 22nd Apr '15 2:51:25 PM by BurntMario

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Zarek Rollin' rollin' rollin' from Jakku Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Rollin' rollin' rollin'
#73507: Apr 22nd 2015 at 2:51:33 PM

I would much rather argue about how the Koopalings are factually more important than Bowser Jr than this argument.

All right, this I'm cool with.

First of all how dare you.

"We're home, Chewie."
BlitzTrain Since: Apr, 2014
#73508: Apr 22nd 2015 at 3:04:48 PM

But Mega Man IS megamanning, most of his moves (A and B) are ones he took from a robot master!

He just doesn't copy things from other fighters during smash tongue

Elbruno Mummy Woomy from Chile: Not As Dry As Space! Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Mummy Woomy
#73509: Apr 22nd 2015 at 3:17:17 PM

So if Mega Man megamanned Kirby's megamanning, what would Mega Man megaman?

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Paperbritt Since: Apr, 2013
#73510: Apr 22nd 2015 at 3:17:19 PM

(People actually kinda want to hear my opinions ;u; )

Well.....

1. Without the Koopalings, there probably wouldn't be a Bowser Jr. Retcons or not, theyre the characters that set the concept of Bowser having offspring underlings.

2. Their general designs are better. They're far more varied and interesting. Even when they were brought back after BJ's creation, their designs became even more varied, gaining color coded shells and Iggy getting a total redesign to seperate him from Lemny. With Bowser Jr they just took baby Bowser from Yoshis Island, gave him a bib, and BOOM! New character!!!

3. Platformer wise, the Koopalings have almost as many appearances. The koopalings have 5 vs Bowser Jrs 6, so BJ only out ranks them 1 game.

Of course, I mainly just like the Koopalings cause I grew up with them, but I was young enough when BJ that I eventually accepted him as his own thing.

Buthesstillaripoffofbabybowservisuallybye

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#73511: Apr 22nd 2015 at 3:19:08 PM

I like the Koopalings, and I appreciate Jr.'s role as "Bowser's kid, but not as an inseperable group of 7". I don't care much for how a ton of Mario Kart 8's roster is devoted to the Koopalings, though. That's the problem with them being a group of 7 and probably the reason Jr. was invented.

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Zarek Rollin' rollin' rollin' from Jakku Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Rollin' rollin' rollin'
#73512: Apr 22nd 2015 at 3:22:56 PM

[up][up]Yeah well you know what I have to say to that?

Those are all perfectly valid points.

...Honestly I don't think Bowser Jr. is way more important than the Koopalings. I just kinda hate the Koopalings. Not for any real rational reason, I'll admit that I hate them for entirely petty reasons. I didn't grow up with them, so I have no real nostalgia for them and hearing so many people saying that they hate Bowser Jr. (the main bad guy of one of my absolute favorite nostalgic games of my childhood, Super Mario Sunshine) and saying that the Koopalings are sooo much better, it grinds my gears it does.

Also they're in Mario Kart. All of them. And I hate it. No, no, Fawful doesn't get to be in Mario Kart, Birdo doesn't get to be in Mario Kart, but every single generic as hell Koopaling does gorramit.

[nja]

edited 22nd Apr '15 3:24:00 PM by Zarek

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#73513: Apr 22nd 2015 at 3:24:05 PM

Baby Bowser already had a bib...Bowser jr. has a bandana with a mouth on it, totally different.

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Elbruno Mummy Woomy from Chile: Not As Dry As Space! Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Mummy Woomy
#73514: Apr 22nd 2015 at 3:25:09 PM

Pretty much. Like it or not, it's easier to manage one character that having to juggle seven of them.

And like [up][up] said, there are a lot of folks that grew with Jr., and for them the Koopalings are "those Koopa dudes that take a chunk of the MK8 roster instead of Jr."

And honestly people, we can live without calling Bowser Jr. BJ.

edited 22nd Apr '15 3:28:51 PM by Elbruno

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Fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#73515: Apr 22nd 2015 at 3:28:32 PM

... I have to admit I was mostly curious because you made it seem like you were actually stating it as fact rather than opinion and I wanted to see how you'd pull that off. But, yeah, opinion is fine, too. tongue

Mostly the thing I was looking forward to was some sort of explanation as to what makes a character "important" in the first place. I guess being the prototype for a "child of Bowser" would necessarily make them more important than Jr. because it could be said he wouldn't exist without them, but in-universe, Jr. has actually done things besides sitting around in a castle until Mario arrives to bop them on the head. So in that sense he's probably more important than them.

Definitely prefer their designs, though.

Zarek Rollin' rollin' rollin' from Jakku Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Rollin' rollin' rollin'
#73516: Apr 22nd 2015 at 3:31:59 PM

I actually don't even like most of their designs, honestly. Like, Morton's cool, I guess? I think it's Morton, anyway; that's the black and white one, yeah? I can't even tell Lemmy and Iggy apart. Wendy's design is stupid and I hate it, like could she be anymore "the one girl?"

I think that's part of why I don't like them. They don't really have a lot going for them besides their designs and their nostalgia factor.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#73517: Apr 22nd 2015 at 3:33:58 PM

Iggy's updated design fixes their identical twin issue...

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Nap1100 Since: Mar, 2012
#73518: Apr 22nd 2015 at 3:50:34 PM

where did this thread go

the smash community is amazing, let me tell you

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#73519: Apr 22nd 2015 at 3:52:17 PM

Um. Robin is awesome?

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Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#73520: Apr 22nd 2015 at 3:54:01 PM

She really is.

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Hungryguy I am a Rad Reptile. from inside a cheese wheel Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
I am a Rad Reptile.
#73521: Apr 22nd 2015 at 3:54:42 PM

But Mewtwo is cooler.

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FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#73522: Apr 22nd 2015 at 4:03:56 PM

Except he's still low tier. tongue

Not that Robin is much better, mind you.

edited 22nd Apr '15 4:04:02 PM by FullMoon

Zarek Rollin' rollin' rollin' from Jakku Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Rollin' rollin' rollin'
#73523: Apr 22nd 2015 at 4:10:07 PM

It does weird me out that Robin is so frikkin' slow. Like, why? What about Robin as a character would make them(!!!) necessarily slow? They move at an average speed in Awakening, if I remember correctly. Maybe the Smash Robins made Speed their dump stat?

...Have I made that joke already? I feel like I've made that joke already.

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Eskay64 Since: Nov, 2010
#73524: Apr 22nd 2015 at 4:10:07 PM

"Cooler" doesn't take tier lists into account. :P

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#73525: Apr 22nd 2015 at 4:12:08 PM

What's kinda funny is that since the Robins need to be the same height, and since Lucina needs to be the same height as Marth (Or close, anyway), Lucina is taller than male Robin in SSB despite being shorter than him in FE.

edited 22nd Apr '15 4:12:23 PM by Anomalocaris20

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