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powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#73226: Apr 20th 2015 at 7:51:56 AM

[up]Did Peach bake that cake? Mario probably won't like Peach baking a cake for anyone else...

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TroPartner Since: Nov, 2014
#73227: Apr 20th 2015 at 8:00:26 AM

Villager baked it... So...watch out for glass shards, I guess?

WaxingName from Everywhere Since: Oct, 2010
#73228: Apr 20th 2015 at 8:34:47 AM

Yeah, he is a swordsman and a brutal brawling fighting style is unfitting and out of character...

But has Ganondorf ever used brawling other than as a minor mix-in with his normal fighting styles? Sorry, but the in-character argument fails here.

Eh, I got no reason to want regular Ganondorf changed. Literally no reason to vote for it. Toon Ganondorf with a double sword mechanic(something that's not completely done as a full moveset, as Pit/Dark Pit only do it for a select amount of attacks. It's not their biggest thing at all. The other factor is is the double sword is not the main focus either. I'd like it where there isn't a bow in the way of making it a true dual-sword moveset. They still give the feeling of it to a degree, but I think double Katanas would be far more different overall if Toon Ganondorf did it).

That said, I voted already for a character that has practically no chance, yet more than getting a complete moveset change for an already existing playable character in this particular iteration of Smash. And likely any game to come. I can't see Ganondorf ever getting a super overhaul of a moveset to the point his original version doesn't exist Smash-wise. Sakurai's never done it once, and he has reason to never bother(it alienates previous players). I'm okay with that logic since he still updates characters a decent amount anyway, to make them feel a little different, making them easy to adjust to.

I'm not asking him to be changed, I'm asking him to be a completely separate character. So that you Falcondorf fans can still have him.

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#73229: Apr 20th 2015 at 8:54:25 AM

You can't have a Toon Ganondorf without a Toon Zelda. And then a Tetra.

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#73230: Apr 20th 2015 at 9:24:40 AM

Vote Toon Marth and Toon Ike for Smash!

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#73231: Apr 20th 2015 at 9:26:50 AM

Toon Toon Link.

Anyway, I don't think Ganondorf needs to be drastically overhauled. Just make his smash attacks use his sword, and replace the Warlock Punch with some implementation of Dead Man's Volley. Everything else is fine as is.

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#73232: Apr 20th 2015 at 9:31:15 AM

[up] Would his neutral B be similar to Dedede's Gordo Throw? I think that's the closest we have to a Dead Man's Volley-type attack as of now.

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Otherarrow Since: Jul, 2010
#73233: Apr 20th 2015 at 9:34:14 AM

Toon Marth would be the poorly drawn, pantsless Marth from FE1 right?

edited 20th Apr '15 9:34:46 AM by Otherarrow

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#73234: Apr 20th 2015 at 9:37:52 AM

Toon Mario and toon Luigi would be the ones from Hotel Mario.

... Which would give us Toon Koopas as well.

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TroPartner Since: Nov, 2014
#73235: Apr 20th 2015 at 10:01:40 AM

I have a question about Vanilla!Link. During his dash attack, is the hitbox on the sword actually lower than Link himself? Against an occasional Shulk player, I remember hitting him with a dash attack when Shulk's in the middle of his down smash.

WaxingName from Everywhere Since: Oct, 2010
#73236: Apr 20th 2015 at 10:05:03 AM

AGAIN: Ganondorf doesn't need to be overhauled. Just give us another Ganondorf (same model) that uses the sword for normals. Why ignore this?

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Zarek Rollin' rollin' rollin' from Jakku Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#73237: Apr 20th 2015 at 10:20:06 AM

I dunno; something feels weird about making a new character that's actually the same character but with a different fighting style.

Then again, Samus exists, so meh. What do I know?

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FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#73238: Apr 20th 2015 at 10:35:28 AM

It just feels unnecessary to have two Ganondorfs just so that one can use a sword.

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#73239: Apr 20th 2015 at 10:39:23 AM

Yeah, that's excessive. At least Samus has an entirely different design.

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#73240: Apr 20th 2015 at 10:45:36 AM

Honestly, if Nintendo decided to change Ganondorf by giving him more sword attacks, then they can just patch these onto him. There's no need to have another Ganondorf who for all intents and purposes is identical to the original with the only difference from the original is slightly different attacks.

edited 20th Apr '15 10:46:33 AM by kablammin45

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#73242: Apr 20th 2015 at 11:03:50 AM

Greninja used Whirlpool!

Foe Diddy Kong was trapped!

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TroPartner Since: Nov, 2014
#73243: Apr 20th 2015 at 11:42:02 AM

Reflecting projectiles is just so satisfying to pull off! I had a rather...poetic set of matches online. First game, he was Megaman. Took first stock by reflecting his Smash attack back at him. Last game, he was Samus. I took his last stock by doing the exact same with the Charge Beam.

edited 20th Apr '15 11:42:46 AM by TroPartner

WaxingName from Everywhere Since: Oct, 2010
#73244: Apr 20th 2015 at 11:43:37 AM

There's Dr. Mario. He doesn't even have a unique moveset from Mario (aside from moving a down air back to down special).

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Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#73245: Apr 20th 2015 at 11:44:05 AM

R.O.B.'s Arm Rotor is the most satisfying one, in my experience, but I'm not exactly unbiased.

Mewtwo's improved Confusion is nifty, too.

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BlitzTrain Since: Apr, 2014
#73246: Apr 20th 2015 at 11:50:48 AM

Dr Mario also starred in his own puzzle games, so that kind of helps his cause.

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#73247: Apr 20th 2015 at 12:03:32 PM

By the way it seems now Ness's bat makes a sound effect when he reflects things with it.

Also Dr.Mario was supposed to be an alt like Lucina and Dark Pit initially, plus he does have his own game like Blitz mentioned.

WaxingName from Everywhere Since: Oct, 2010
#73248: Apr 20th 2015 at 12:13:50 PM

So? Wouldn't a Sword Ganondorf just have his own moveset? He'd be considered a different character entirely.

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SpookyMask Since: Jan, 2011
#73249: Apr 20th 2015 at 12:15:06 PM

Bah, true weapon of the Ganon is trident, not a sword tongue

Demonfly birdie fairy Since: Jul, 2012
birdie fairy
#73250: Apr 20th 2015 at 12:19:12 PM

While I'm not against the idea, keep in mind that you're proposing that, for the one solitary instance that the players can directly impact who can be put into Super Smash Bros. (and through paid DLC at that), we should just pick Literally Ganondorf w/Swords.

I'd honestly just hold out for the possibility that he finally gets a HW-esque revamp in the next installment. It's not like Sakurai's in the best of conditions to keep forcing the Falcondorf standard in the years to come anyway.

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