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Nap1100 Since: Mar, 2012
#73026: Apr 17th 2015 at 7:17:33 AM

They're still supposed to be surprises. We're doing this out of courtesy for those who purposely don't follow leaks.

BurntMario Oh hai TV Tropes from Your nightmares Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#73027: Apr 17th 2015 at 7:18:35 AM

The unlockable characters are a case of It Was His Sled in and of themselves—in fact, Sakurai took notice of this and originally intended to have everyone available from the start in the Wii U version.

Leaked characters, on the other hand, are not, so it would be wise not to spoil them to people on this topic.

edited 17th Apr '15 7:22:33 AM by BurntMario

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Demonfly birdie fairy Since: Jul, 2012
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#73028: Apr 17th 2015 at 7:32:53 AM

Despite them already being directly name-dropped in this thread beforehand.

But fair enough.

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powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#73029: Apr 17th 2015 at 7:41:10 AM

I am usually not anal about being spoiled myself.

Though one of my stream friends got upset during Some Call Me Johnny's review of Majora's Mask when he was spoiling the ending...telling me to stop watching the review. I hold the ideology that gameplay, controls, and mechanics. trump story for video games.

Of course, when I asked her what I should play first between Pokemon Gens 1 and 2, she said 1 because of story, not realizing that I mostly play games for gameplay. She then tried to compare it to having someone who has never seen Star Wars watch Empire Strikes Back before the original, and I had to explain to her that the components needed to enjoy video games are much different than other medium.

edited 17th Apr '15 7:43:38 AM by powerpuffbats

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BloatedCreeper The One and Many from Area N Since: Jan, 2013 Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
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#73030: Apr 17th 2015 at 8:30:56 AM

[up] I hear ya...
But in what world does Gen I Pokemon have a better story than II? tongue

edited 17th Apr '15 8:31:19 AM by BloatedCreeper

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Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#73031: Apr 17th 2015 at 8:49:00 AM

I don't think it's the the story is better, just that you'd want to know Team Rocket's backstory before playing Gen 2. And also to see how Kanto has changed I guess.

Blueeyedrat Since: Oct, 2010
#73032: Apr 17th 2015 at 11:10:14 AM

Finally got around to the "8 kills in Cruel Smash with Lucina" challenge (a bit of a crapshoot, but I got 11 kills in total), which also cleared the "8 kills as any character" challenge, which in turn got me the "700 unique trophies" challenge.

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#73033: Apr 17th 2015 at 11:19:22 AM

[up] I was able to get at least 10 kills in as Meta Knight by spamming Drill Rush. I think he's how I unlocked Duck Hunt, too—they're supposed to be the last character to unlock, but I ended up unlocking them second in Wii U (my first was either Falco or Lucina).

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TroPartner Since: Nov, 2014
#73034: Apr 17th 2015 at 11:55:17 AM

Well, I had my first For Glory matches after updating my game, and I'm surprised I didn't run into a Mewtwo user...

Actually, I just played, like, ten matches with one player, so...

Demonfly birdie fairy Since: Jul, 2012
birdie fairy
#73035: Apr 17th 2015 at 1:14:02 PM

It only took about two match-ups for me to run into one.

Incidentally, it was right there that I saw the giant, gaping blindspot that they gave to Mewtwo's F-Smash.

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powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#73036: Apr 17th 2015 at 1:23:57 PM

I haven't played online yet after going through Classic and All Star as Mewtwo.

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Fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#73037: Apr 17th 2015 at 1:36:57 PM

[up][up] He does seem to suffer a lot from this game's finicky hitboxes.

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#73038: Apr 17th 2015 at 2:21:03 PM

I THOUGHT that I was getting hit too much when I used that move.

Mewtwo needs to be fiiiixed. His forward smash, his custom specials, and his Shadow Ball.

What? Why of course his Shadow Ball is broken. He can't be the strongest Pokemon ever created if it doesn't damage on charging.

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Dragon_Ranger Since: Jan, 2010
#73039: Apr 17th 2015 at 3:39:13 PM

I find it interesting that, at base, his Shadow Ball has higher priority than Lucario's Aura Sphere when both are fully charged. At what point do even out? I know in Sudden Death, Lucario is stronger.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#73040: Apr 17th 2015 at 4:02:19 PM

I'm pretty sure it's because of the size difference from Lucario's damage...if a projectile doesn't go through it's target then the size determines priority.

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#73041: Apr 17th 2015 at 4:18:08 PM

they really should just pass through each other. One's Fightng and the other's Ghost.

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#73042: Apr 17th 2015 at 6:12:49 PM

[up] But Ghost-type attacks can still hit Fighting types. And if I remember correctly, Steel types no longer resist Ghost-type moves.

edited 17th Apr '15 6:13:35 PM by BurntMario

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#73043: Apr 17th 2015 at 6:17:54 PM

Speaking of which, why doesn't Lucario have a single Steel move in Smash?

Well, when I first played, I kept calling Force Palm Flash Cannon before I checked the custom moves screen.

Hell, why doesn't he have a flurry attack either? Close Combat is one of the fighting type moves in the game to have. And Lucario learns it. And the main series animation implies Rapid-Fire Fisticuffs.

And while were at it, in Pokémon, Lucario is a Glass Cannon. In Smash, he is a weird thing that wants to get beat on before he can even do any real damage!

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Nap1100 Since: Mar, 2012
#73044: Apr 17th 2015 at 6:24:58 PM

Smash is a bit dubious when it comes to canon. See: Rock Smash being useful at all.

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#73045: Apr 17th 2015 at 6:32:17 PM

[up][up] It's because of that that I'm always happy to see Reshiram show up in the Unova league stage.

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FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#73046: Apr 17th 2015 at 6:36:56 PM

Lucario's moveset is kinda weird because you'd expect him to lay beatdowns on people, but instead he has moves that are slow and kinda graceful unlike you'd expect from most fighting types, especially considering Lucario learns Close Combat

PM Lucario is a bit closer to what I think he would fight like... Except they basically made Lucario a Ryu clone with some shades of Goku for no sensible reason, which is super dumb.

Kuroxeng Moved accounts because meh from error 040 Since: Mar, 2015
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#73047: Apr 17th 2015 at 6:42:34 PM

"PM Lucario?"

I don't mind Lucario as he is in Smash, but it's just weird that any media outside of the main games treats Lucario as a monotype fighting mon.

Though honestly, why does he lack a flurry attack? It shouldn't be too strong if it wasn't aura based, right? Not all of Lucario's moves use the aura mechanic.

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Zarek Rollin' rollin' rollin' from Jakku Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#73048: Apr 17th 2015 at 6:43:32 PM

Project M Lucario.

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FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#73049: Apr 17th 2015 at 6:48:29 PM

To be fair we also don't see Greninja use any Dark type moves in Smash, so they probably just put more emphasis on the primary type.

Kuroxeng Moved accounts because meh from error 040 Since: Mar, 2015
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#73050: Apr 17th 2015 at 6:52:23 PM

Least it gets Shadow Sneak. So some type variety.

And "Secret Ninja Attack" is obviously Mat Block + Night Slash.

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