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Eskay64 Since: Nov, 2010
#72601: Apr 14th 2015 at 8:17:51 AM

Sakurai did indeed choose Wii Fit Trainer specifically because they were someone nobody would expect. Duck Hunt was chosen under a similar premise.

Ninety Absolutely no relation to NLK from Land of Quakes and Hills Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
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#72602: Apr 14th 2015 at 8:24:59 AM

[up][up] Ugliest Mega Evolution? There's some competition for that. Ain't that right, Salamence? oh God I was just joking please don't kill me

edited 14th Apr '15 8:25:12 AM by Ninety

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Eskay64 Since: Nov, 2010
#72603: Apr 14th 2015 at 8:27:07 AM

I actually rather like Mega Salamence. Nyoom~

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#72604: Apr 14th 2015 at 8:55:39 AM

[up][up][up] Apparently, Duck Hunt was one of the first newcomers considered for Smash 4 as well, suggesting, contrary to somewhat popular belief, that they did not replace the Ice Climbers. It's sort of another Mewtwo-Lucario situation, although Duck Hunt and the Ice Climbers do not even share one move.

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FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Ninety Absolutely no relation to NLK from Land of Quakes and Hills Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
Absolutely no relation to NLK
#72606: Apr 14th 2015 at 9:03:53 AM

>win percentage Diddy: 63%
Figures

>win percentages Little Mac: 0%
pffff

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Dragon_Ranger Since: Jan, 2010
#72607: Apr 14th 2015 at 9:51:52 AM

Seeing that reminds me why "No items, Fox only, Final Destination" became a meme.

Also, Capt. falcon with no wins makes me sad.

edited 14th Apr '15 9:52:41 AM by Dragon_Ranger

FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#72608: Apr 14th 2015 at 9:57:59 AM

If I remember right the only Captain Falcon in Apex's Top 8 was a counterpick from a Sheik player against Rosalina that went horribly wrong. For that matter, the Little Mac was actually a Duck Hunt player, he was actually the one who took aMSa's Greninja out in a very close set.

It's interesting to note that even with Diddy dominating Sm4sh, he still isn't used nearly as much as Fox is in Melee, who has more than double his usage statistics.

Amusingly enough Sheik is used just as much in Melee as in Sm4sh.

edited 14th Apr '15 9:58:15 AM by FullMoon

MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
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#72609: Apr 14th 2015 at 10:06:59 AM

I feel uneasy comparing the meta of SSB 4 to a game that has had more than a decade for its meta to develop. I don't know, maybe it's easier to figure out competitive trends these days.

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#72610: Apr 14th 2015 at 10:19:51 AM

I'm with Matilda, the meta still has a long way to go, especially with patches and DLC starting tomorrow that could drastically change things.

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#72611: Apr 14th 2015 at 10:23:20 AM

What are the odds of Mewtwo being top tier? It probably won't happen but I really want it to.

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Nap1100 Since: Mar, 2012
#72612: Apr 14th 2015 at 10:25:09 AM

I think patches being a thing is actually part of the reason people are so quick to judge. What might be the best now might be able to be countered later, but why bother when the game will change soon anyway.

Not saying that's a bad thing at all. As long as the game becomes as good as it can be after patches are inevitably over it's okay to tweak things. Just not, well, drastically.

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#72613: Apr 14th 2015 at 10:41:28 AM

I'm kinda predicting Fox or Sonic to become the top tier character post-patch honestly. Nerfs to Diddy and Sheik are probably going to happen and Rosalina might end up getting nerfed again.

Though let's be real, Rosalina's Up-Air should not be killing DK on 30% not even on Halberd.

The thought of a third party character being the best in the game is kinda amusing though.

edited 14th Apr '15 10:41:53 AM by FullMoon

Fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#72614: Apr 14th 2015 at 10:41:47 AM

Mewtwo for top tier, Diddy for bottom tier, let's go!

Hungryguy I am a Rad Reptile. from inside a cheese wheel Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#72615: Apr 14th 2015 at 10:50:15 AM

I'd like a small change to Greninja's Substitute. For a few frames while he's using it, an attack will deflect off of him instead of activating the counter attack, which, believe it or not, leaves him more open than if the opponent didn't use an attack.

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BlitzTrain Since: Apr, 2014
#72616: Apr 14th 2015 at 10:59:02 AM

[up]Are you saying that should be added or removed?

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#72617: Apr 14th 2015 at 10:59:39 AM

Those complete invincibility frames should be removed.

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#72618: Apr 14th 2015 at 11:01:34 AM

I can't help but wonder if the Substitute doll/log was supposed to prolong the hitlag when the opponent triggers Substitute to allow Greninja to have enough time to strike back and choose the proper direction for it without missing.

Obviously if that was the intention they failed pretty badly at it. Would be nice if it worked this way though. If Substitute was more reliable, Greninja would become a much more threatening opponent because holy crap that move is really strong.

edited 14th Apr '15 11:01:53 AM by FullMoon

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#72619: Apr 14th 2015 at 11:04:50 AM

I just like to play with the doll/log until it disappears. Once it's gone, right back to fighting.

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TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
#72620: Apr 14th 2015 at 11:06:47 AM

I get the feeling for the next patch, Diddy, Sheik, Sonic, Yoshi and Rosalina will be nerfed, possibly Villager's recovery option too.

Zelda, Charizard, Bowser Junior, Marth, Jigglypuff, Game and Watch and Pit will receive buffs.

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#72621: Apr 14th 2015 at 11:08:26 AM

We can already see a buff for Zelda in the Mewtwo trailer. If you notice the part where she and Palutena try to attack Mewtwo, Zelda's cooldown for her lightning kick ends a lot earlier than it does right now.

edited 14th Apr '15 11:08:54 AM by FullMoon

Ninety Absolutely no relation to NLK from Land of Quakes and Hills Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
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#72622: Apr 14th 2015 at 11:13:41 AM

buff Robin pls

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BlitzTrain Since: Apr, 2014
#72623: Apr 14th 2015 at 11:15:45 AM

I really don't get how you people can get so much information from such short clips. Seriously. Is it some sort of required secondary superpower of fandom or something?

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#72624: Apr 14th 2015 at 11:17:52 AM

If the clip showed some buffs already, it would've been something to see Mewtwo screwing up a Hoo-Hah. tongue

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SomeName Person Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#72625: Apr 14th 2015 at 11:25:00 AM

Thanks for the advice on tilts earlier; I'll look into remapping thte controls.

Gotta brush up on my Villager, Jigglypuff, and Duck Hunt game. Maybe Mr. Game & Watch if he's good.

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