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Laniv Since: Aug, 2010
#72551: Apr 13th 2015 at 2:14:28 PM

Sukapon would've been a rideable item?? That's...kinda bizarre.

It seems so surreal that James Bond of all characters was considered for Smash Bros. If he was in, then maybe those weird Miiverse requests wouldn't be so unfounded. tongue

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edited 13th Apr '15 2:14:46 PM by Laniv

powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The crabby fussbudget
#72552: Apr 13th 2015 at 2:15:27 PM

[up]That would've brought Fire Emblem representation to Zelda's level. Just below Mario and Pokemon.

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Konkfan7 Konknitive Dissonance from Roselle Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Konknitive Dissonance
#72553: Apr 13th 2015 at 2:16:39 PM

But it's already to Zelda's level.

Lucina may be by all means a complete clone, but she's a rather well-received clone.

Sterok Since: Apr, 2012
#72554: Apr 13th 2015 at 2:19:23 PM

Chrom sucks. Around as much as Roy. He's got no reason to be in at all, especially with Robin already giving Awakening its fair share. At least Lucina provides some extra diversity. If you really need another FE character Lyn, Hector, or Ephraim would be the best options, but none are viable for various reasons.

edited 13th Apr '15 2:19:35 PM by Sterok

FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
feeling blue
#72555: Apr 13th 2015 at 2:20:01 PM

Mario, Pokémon and Zelda are much bigger franchises than Fire Emblem though and let's not forget that if Chrom was in that would be 3 characters representating just one game from the franchise. At least in Kid Icarus's case Pit and Palutena have presence in more than just one game. Hell, people already complain that the Fire Emblem franchise has enough characters as is.

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#72556: Apr 13th 2015 at 2:22:09 PM

Chrom is far better gameplay-wise than Roy will ever be. It is just that Lucina will more often than not be better.

Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#72557: Apr 13th 2015 at 2:25:46 PM

Fuck series-character ratios and the concept of over representing a series. If a character fits, why not?

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Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#72558: Apr 13th 2015 at 2:28:58 PM

Well, kind of. There are a total of 6 playable Zelda characters in the overall series(Toon Link obviously replaced Young Link, but the series does treat them as unique characters due to the name alone. They are blatantly the same role though), and 5 FE characters. 7 Mario to date(and this is the only game where they're all in).

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Konkfan7 Konknitive Dissonance from Roselle Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Konknitive Dissonance
#72559: Apr 13th 2015 at 2:37:55 PM

I don't considering a series not being "big enough" viable for their characters not getting in. I once told a friend of mine that I saw someone saying that Fire Emblem isn't big enough to warrant 4 representatives, and his response was, "Wow, is Wii Fit really that big?"

FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#72560: Apr 13th 2015 at 2:38:45 PM

Technically Wii Fit did make a lot of money for Nintendo so I guess it counts as big, even if most gamers don't really care about it.

Sterok Since: Apr, 2012
#72561: Apr 13th 2015 at 2:43:39 PM

Oh Wii Fit was huge. Sold more than Metroid, Fire Emblem, Punch Out, and Pikmin ever will. Probably combined. There's no real reason that the series didn't deserve a rep. Nintendogs and Brain Age also deserve reps, but it's probably a lot more difficult coming up with a good moveset for them.

Everyone complains about DK being underrepresented (and it is), but you know what series really needs more? Animal Crossing. Series is probably as big as Zelda for Nintendo, and it only has a single character (though also two stages). I'm half expecting Isabelle to be joining in Smash 5.

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#72562: Apr 13th 2015 at 2:52:31 PM

When it comes to another DK representative, I think I'd rather have King K. Rool over Dixie. I'm having trouble discerning any other major differences between her and Diddy anyway, aside from her hair. Nothing wrong with another playable villain, anyway.

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powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The crabby fussbudget
#72563: Apr 13th 2015 at 4:04:47 PM

I'd be for Dixie first (she is my favorite DK character), then K.Rool.

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NEO from Qrrbrbirlbel Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
#72564: Apr 13th 2015 at 4:45:50 PM

I'd like another Metroid representative. Brawl gave us Zero Suit Samus at least, but it's still... Samus, albeit playing completely different.

Since Ridley seems to be a no-no (I wouldn't complain myself), I'd actually like to see a Luminoth warrior for some reason, but it's less likely than Ridley. Still, Metroid isn't a series known for its characters.

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Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#72565: Apr 13th 2015 at 5:18:48 PM

Since I'm a bit late on the mains-as-spouses thing...

Melee: Sorry, Mewtwo, I'm a human.

Brawl: Why can you not be older and a girl? Otherwise, I'd go for it.

4: Luigi's a man, so I'd have to say no. Female!Robin'll be fine, unless she's married to Chrom.

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powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The crabby fussbudget
#72566: Apr 13th 2015 at 7:51:41 PM

Question: Why didn't Nintendo and Capcom work out a deal to have Mega Man in Brawl?

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Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#72567: Apr 13th 2015 at 7:53:45 PM

There's rumors they were mad that Resident Evil 4 was no longer an exclusive.

Nobody really knows why, though. Maybe Sakurai had no idea to make him super unique? He is a shotoclone in Marvel VS Capcom, which also applies to Luigi, Mario, and Dr. Mario.

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Sterok Since: Apr, 2012
#72568: Apr 13th 2015 at 7:56:47 PM

Why would they? It's not like they were that close back then, and they weren't exactly open to all third parties just because one or two got in. At least now Nintendo enjoys Monster Hunter exclusivity, which is a much bigger gift than Mega Man. I wouldn't be shocked if Nintendo's efforts in helping localize MH is what helped tighten their relationship.

powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The crabby fussbudget
#72569: Apr 13th 2015 at 7:58:04 PM

It seems weird to me as Mega Man was, along with Sonic, the most requested third-party character to be in Brawl.

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Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#72570: Apr 13th 2015 at 7:59:57 PM

Because they were out told it would be an exclusive. Capcom basically went behind their back and broke their trust at that time.

They had every right to be annoyed.

Also, I just remember that Sakurai already posted an article about Mega Man; He never thought of him till before 4 and after Brawl. It's still possible Nintendo's justified annoyance would've affected it, though. That's likely why Snake didn't come back, since Konami and Nintendo are having bad blood right now.

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Keybreak (Long Runner)
#72571: Apr 13th 2015 at 8:01:40 PM

Smash is full of childhood video game idols...so letting in Sonic was a good way of celebrating his legacy.

Megaman and Pacman too eventually.

I never got why they let Snake in though. I didn't know who he was and he's hardly kid-friendly.

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Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#72572: Apr 13th 2015 at 8:03:21 PM

Kojima's Son wanted Snake in Brawl. Kojima asked Sakurai. Sakurai said yes. Snake was not added for being an icon, just a friendly favor. No more, no less.

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Sterok Since: Apr, 2012
#72573: Apr 13th 2015 at 8:03:41 PM

Sonic defined an entire line of systems, the first real competition Nintendo had in the console space. He was Mario's unofficial archrival, inspiring playground fights and console wars across continents. At one point in time he was probably nearly equal to Mario in popularity.

Mega Man was that robot dude that Capcom milked and milked and milked. Then they rebooted him half a dozen times or so and kept on milking until he could take it no more. Megs has his fanbase and fits into Smash well, but he's not nearly on the same level as Sonic (or Pac-Man for that matter).

Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#72574: Apr 13th 2015 at 8:22:19 PM

Mega Man Classic is, however, almost certainly the definitive series of games on the NES that Nintendo didn't handle at all. He's more niche than Sonic or Pac-Man in terms of mainstream identity but in regards to importance to Nintendo he's arguably almost as big as Sonic.

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Otherarrow Since: Jul, 2010
#72575: Apr 13th 2015 at 8:25:17 PM

Bad blood rumors aside, the official reason is, if I recall, Capcom and Nintendo were waiting for one to approach the other.

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