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Nap1100 Since: Mar, 2012
#72301: Apr 10th 2015 at 8:01:47 AM

EVO is always in Las Vegas and APEX is always in the New Jersey urban area, for the record. Whether that helps your situation or not I have no idea.

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#72302: Apr 10th 2015 at 8:06:16 AM

I feel like I need to fight Moon to be part of this thread. I can has NNID?

I has English course and college today so I'll be out most of the day.

Kuroxeng Moved accounts because meh from error 040 Since: Mar, 2015
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#72303: Apr 10th 2015 at 8:25:00 AM

Ah well, doesn't mean I can't add you and you can accept it later.

And time zones being a thing, who knows when you'll be getting that.

If you want to, send me a PM about it.

That goes for all of you.

BTW, I only have Smash Wii U.

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#72304: Apr 10th 2015 at 8:25:09 AM

Coming up with rivalries, trying to keep apart people who exist in the same canon:

Mario vs Sonic (fated rivalry)
DK vs Little Mac (from Punch-Out!! Wii)
Pit vs Meta Knight (Lightwing v Darkwing)
Fox vs Sheik (Showdown on the Halberd, SSE)
Luigi vs Jigglypuff (eternal second bananas)
Diddy Kong vs Toon Link (annoying little guys)
Palutena vs Rosalina (clash of the Goddesses)
Falco vs Duck Hunt (bird hunt)
Peach vs Charizard (lizard racism)
Link vs Marth (swordfight!)
Pikachu vs Bowser (lightweight electric vs heavyweight fire)
Zelda vs Lucina (Princess fight!)
Ike vs Samus (because Ike must fight armored foes)
Yoshi vs Greninja (battle of the tongues)
Robin vs Dark Pit (born of darkness)
Lucario vs Ness (Fighting v Psychic)
Ganondorf vs Captain Falcon (there can be only one!)
Kirby vs Pac-Man (battle of the big eaters)
Bowser Jr vs King Dedede (wants to take out his dad's copycat)
Wario vs Olimar (battle of the treasure-hunters)
Mr Game and Watch vs Villager (jack-of-all-trades characters)
ZSS vs Megaman (purely upon this webcomic, she "killed" his crush)
ROB vs Shulk (robot racism)
Wii Fit Trainer vs Dr. Mario (who knows more about health?)

Some are one-sided, some are a stretch (Bowser v Pikachu is the weakest, i think).

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#72305: Apr 10th 2015 at 10:16:07 AM

Found out yesterday I missed the cutoff for the Mewtwo promo. Boo.

I've been trying to get better at the game, and I'm wondering, is it normal for new players to mix up tilts and smashes and similar? I find that in the fast-paced situations I tend to end up using smashes unintentionally, and that's not getting into what happens when I try to use a down special on a platform you can drop through.

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#72306: Apr 10th 2015 at 10:19:00 AM

Up tilts are the worst ones unless you have "press up to jump" turned off, because if you put too little lag between pointing up and pressing A, you get a smash, but too much lag, and you'll just jump, and it can become difficult to, especially, chain up-tilts together intentionally.

So i'd recommend that, unless you like to jump with the control stick.

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#72307: Apr 10th 2015 at 10:32:56 AM

I nearly always attack in smashes abs aerials unless I don't get much time to wind up or jump, then I use standard attacks and very occasionally tilts.

Special moves I use when the situation calls for them.

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#72308: Apr 10th 2015 at 10:50:26 AM

I also usually rely on non-special moves as well unless I can get the hang of them. Usually if I'm playing as Lucario, the Villager, or Robin, I sometimes use specials.

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Fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#72309: Apr 10th 2015 at 11:03:32 AM

Yeah, even when you're more experienced, reliably executing tilts and smashes without mixing them up can be a bit of a problem. You really have to become confident with the controls so you don't jerk the stick around too quickly unless you actually have to.

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#72310: Apr 10th 2015 at 11:09:44 AM

And then there's Robin's aerials.

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#72311: Apr 10th 2015 at 12:52:58 PM

I hate it when I try to tilt the rare occasion I do, and then smash instead. Especially Lucario. That smash is so slow....

Also, why is "up to jump" the default control scheme? It shouldn't be. It's also silly that you have to save a nametag to save control edits. Since I don't always remember to select it.

Oh, and I just FUCKING LOVE IT when I try to fall through a platform and instead just crouch, despite mashing the stick like a ten year old with ADHD. And then I fall through the damned things when trying to down tilt/smash.

edited 10th Apr '15 12:56:03 PM by Kuroxeng

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#72312: Apr 10th 2015 at 12:58:23 PM

[up] I usually stick (heh) to the right analog stick when I want to perform a smash attack. It's not too hard to get used to, honestly.

Though I still can't jump without pushing up on the left analog stick.

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#72313: Apr 10th 2015 at 1:00:22 PM

Oh I keep sticking with the right stick, usually. But tilts are still impossible for me.

Either I smash or dash.

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#72314: Apr 10th 2015 at 1:05:56 PM

72301: Doesn't help...I'm in Indiana.

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Nap1100 Since: Mar, 2012
#72315: Apr 10th 2015 at 1:10:25 PM

[up]x4: I assume the reason tap-to-jump is the default setting is because it was Grandfather'd in from the 64 days: since pressing up is the way to jump in most other fighting games, the Smash team decided to make that the default setting even though the game would eventually grow around button-jumping instead.

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#72316: Apr 10th 2015 at 1:23:02 PM

I always use up-jump. Never bothered me.

It helps that I don't care about tilts enough to worry about using them consistently.

edited 10th Apr '15 1:24:12 PM by Zarek

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#72317: Apr 10th 2015 at 1:34:59 PM

Greninja's up-tilt is top tier so I always have tap jump disabled.

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#72318: Apr 10th 2015 at 1:38:37 PM

I've been playing since the N64 days- Back when there were no buttons to assign jump to- So I got comfortable with tap jump ages ago. I've never really had problems using up tilts with it on, either.

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#72319: Apr 10th 2015 at 1:41:37 PM

I had tap jump turned off in Brawl, but that was only because I was too used to it by the time I realized it might be more beneficial to turn it off. I turned it off first thing in Smash 4 and it's been off ever since (apart from when I forget to select my profile).

I still find tilts a pain to use, though, so I also made it so my C-stick is set to attack rather than smash. Still getting used to it (and it's a bummer that inputting a diagonal makes you use a jab/neutral aerial so you can't angle your tilts this way).

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#72320: Apr 10th 2015 at 1:43:32 PM

Actually, in 64, you could jump using the C-Buttons in the original N64 version, and the X and Y buttons in the Virtual Console version.

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#72321: Apr 10th 2015 at 1:45:08 PM

So, how do you set the c-stick to attack instead of smash???

And I have tap-to-jump disabled mostly so I don't waste an air jump when trying to uair.

edited 10th Apr '15 1:46:32 PM by Kuroxeng

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Nap1100 Since: Mar, 2012
#72322: Apr 10th 2015 at 1:48:19 PM

Go to control options. One of the options under the C-stick should be "Attack" instead of "Smash". It will result in you using tilts instead of smashes.

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#72323: Apr 10th 2015 at 1:48:33 PM

Trying to drop through platforms only to crouch instead no matter what I do frustrates me to no end as well, especially if I'm playing any of the Challenge Door activities in Smash Run or if an Orne is coming to get me. I usually just give up, jump in place and hold whatever the down button is.

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#72324: Apr 10th 2015 at 1:51:40 PM

Speaking of using the C-stick for tilts, does anyone else that does this have problems with the tilts not responding at times? I swear, I've been screwed over a few times online because my character decides to stand there watching instead of attacking when using the stick.

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#72325: Apr 10th 2015 at 1:55:00 PM

Eh, I tried doing smashes online with the "c-stick" (despite the Wii U not having one, but whatever) and end up just violently jabbing the air. Damned lag.

BTW, is it true that when someone disconnects, the player gets replaced by a low level CPU to keep the match going?

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