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Ninety Absolutely no relation to NLK from Land of Quakes and Hills Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
Absolutely no relation to NLK
#72276: Apr 9th 2015 at 4:14:52 PM

It's nowhere near Diddy's only boon, but it would be a pretty big hit.

Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.
Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#72277: Apr 9th 2015 at 4:32:36 PM

I know, it's just the one thing that nobody's developed a consistent counter for, right?

FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
Mr. Clueless
#72279: Apr 9th 2015 at 7:32:05 PM

It seems that Melee was the only game where the single best character was only a bit better than everyone else. Or maybe I have my nostalgia glasses on.

De Romanīs, lingua Latina gloriosa non fuī.
Elbruno Mummy Woomy from Chile: Not As Dry As Space! Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Mummy Woomy
#72280: Apr 9th 2015 at 7:34:01 PM

Pretty sure Fox stayed as the de facto top character for a good while. Also, short list of viable characters says hi.

edited 9th Apr '15 7:34:31 PM by Elbruno

"Yeah, it's a shame. Here we are in an underground cave with all these lasers, and instead of having a rave we're using it for evil."
Nap1100 Since: Mar, 2012
#72281: Apr 9th 2015 at 7:35:20 PM

Melee's one of those cases where there aren't that many viable characters but the ones that are viable are so much fun to watch that no one really cares. See also: Mahvel.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#72282: Apr 9th 2015 at 7:42:07 PM

I always compare Melee to Marvel Vs Capcom 2 as well. Two universally loved games that are considered the greatest fighting games since Sliced Bread Fighter in their respective fandoms, in sheer contrast to their arguably lazy and definitely terrible character balance.

Granted, I bet if either of them came out today their respective problems probably could've been fixed by a patch or two (if Nintendo were doing patches, anyway).

edited 9th Apr '15 7:43:16 PM by KnownUnknown

FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
feeling blue
#72283: Apr 9th 2015 at 7:47:57 PM

Diddy is not nearly as centralizing as Meta Knight, at least and so far Sm4sh has been shown to be the most diverse game so far in terms of character representation.

A majority of the cast is viable in this installment, which is already a lot more than in Melee or Brawl. Even the ones considered unviable like Zelda have been getting results around.

BurntMario Oh hai TV Tropes from Your nightmares Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
Oh hai TV Tropes
#72284: Apr 9th 2015 at 8:06:44 PM

I think the balance in Smash 4 is mostly because of the larger number of characters, honestly, making it harder to find game-breaking techniques like the hoo-hah. And even then there hasn't really been a character in the game like 64!Pikachu, Melee!Fox, and Brawl!Meta Knight.

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NEO from Qrrbrbirlbel Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
#72285: Apr 9th 2015 at 8:15:20 PM

The Hoo-hah isn't even THAT bad. If it had less knockback, it would be totally fair.

Just think that Samus can go up to 40% in just one combo. Mario can go even further. It's not like the Hoo-hah is game-breaking.

No regret shall pass over the threshold!
MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
Mr. Clueless
#72286: Apr 9th 2015 at 8:20:31 PM

It's still funny to have collages featuring a picture of mice fighting, a picture of foxes fighting, a picture of bats fighting, and a picture of chimpanzees fighting.

De Romanīs, lingua Latina gloriosa non fuī.
Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#72287: Apr 9th 2015 at 8:21:10 PM

Yeah, as nasty as Diddy currently is, a lot of it is down to him being less predictable than everyone else-Lots of counters for him but none are sure-things.

Ungreat as that might be, it's leaps and bounds ahead of Meta Knight in the bad ol' days.

edited 9th Apr '15 8:33:45 PM by Pulse

I sure said that!
BurntMario Oh hai TV Tropes from Your nightmares Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
Oh hai TV Tropes
#72288: Apr 9th 2015 at 8:22:05 PM

[up][up][up] Yeah, Mario's up tilt juggling isn't so bad, if only because the opponent needs to be at a low percentage for him to perform the combo.

edited 9th Apr '15 8:22:14 PM by BurntMario

Call me Willy Whistle 'cause I can't speak, baby. Something in TV Tropes really drove me crazy.
FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
feeling blue
#72289: Apr 9th 2015 at 8:36:23 PM

So yesterday there was a lot more views on my Greninja montage that I usually have, which left me really confused

Turns out, apparently my video reached the Japanese

That's surprising to say the least.

TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
#72290: Apr 9th 2015 at 8:38:14 PM

Global Lunar Eclipse begins now, I guess.

NEO from Qrrbrbirlbel Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
#72291: Apr 9th 2015 at 8:49:36 PM

I started using pretty much all characters on For Glory. It may be just my impression, but I feel I got a lot better with that. Maybe because I stopped relying just on my main characters' abilities.

edited 9th Apr '15 8:49:58 PM by NEO

No regret shall pass over the threshold!
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#72292: Apr 9th 2015 at 9:10:40 PM

Learning as many characters you can is a good idea for most fighting games. The more you learn about a variety of characters, the more you learn about the game in general.

edited 9th Apr '15 9:12:15 PM by KnownUnknown

MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
Mr. Clueless
#72293: Apr 9th 2015 at 9:12:57 PM

@FullMoon: I especially loved the part where you Substituted against Mr. Game and Watch's 9-Judge.

De Romanīs, lingua Latina gloriosa non fuī.
TroPartner Since: Nov, 2014
#72294: Apr 9th 2015 at 9:13:53 PM

@Full Moon: Man, that's lucky.

Who knows, one day you could be representing TV Tropes at Apex someday!

Hey, a guy can dream, can't he?

edited 9th Apr '15 9:14:19 PM by TroPartner

FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
feeling blue
#72295: Apr 9th 2015 at 9:24:17 PM

[up][up] Fun fact: In the match prior to that one the G&W guy killed me with a 9 right at the beginning of the match.

That's just Greninja's way of saying "payback time" tongue

[up] I do want to go to next year's APEX but I'm sure it won't be easy to get everything ready to go there tongue

powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The crabby fussbudget
#72296: Apr 10th 2015 at 6:08:14 AM

I don't think I'd be able to go to stuff like APEX or EVO.

AAAAUUUUGGGHHHH!!!!
Fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#72297: Apr 10th 2015 at 6:29:19 AM

Sure you'd be able to go. You'll take last place, but that doesn't mean you can't be there.

powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The crabby fussbudget
#72298: Apr 10th 2015 at 6:41:00 AM

[up]It's not that...

  • 1. I'd have to see if any of my parents would be willing to take me depending on location

  • 2. Would be during school?

  • 3. Money

AAAAUUUUGGGHHHH!!!!
Fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#72299: Apr 10th 2015 at 6:57:39 AM

Oh, so that was what you meant after all. Well. You could still go, technically. You'd just be causing a lot of trouble for yourself!

... I'll shut up!

Kuroxeng Moved accounts because meh from error 040 Since: Mar, 2015
Moved accounts because meh
#72300: Apr 10th 2015 at 7:07:32 AM

I feel like I need to fight Moon to be part of this thread.

I can has NNID?

Moved handles because meh

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