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Zarek Rollin' rollin' rollin' from Jakku Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Rollin' rollin' rollin'
#72251: Apr 9th 2015 at 12:08:12 PM

New life goal: Play as Shulk on Gaur Plain, wait for Metal Face to appear, hope he says "If the brat's here, Dunban can't be far behind!", get the Smash Ball, summon Dunban, win the video game.

...I need life goals that rely less on luck.

"We're home, Chewie."
Fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#72252: Apr 9th 2015 at 12:10:21 PM

Skip to 27:44 and you'll see how I measure up to actual pros tongue
Pretty well, actually! Nice showing!

Is it just me, or does anyone else find it odd when folks want a guy in who they aren't familiar with, but want in on principle?

Like, I think before Awakening got big, a lot of folks wanted a third FE rep without having played an FE game, or folks wanting a Golden Sun rep or even a third MOTHER rep.

Considering that's a big part of what I do, I don't find it weird per se. Though some of the conclusions people draw from those "principles" can be a little outlandish. tongue

I don't know, it's really hard to say. I mean, part of the reason I'm alright with K.Rool is that people have always been saying that DK needs more representation, Diddy should've already been in Melee, etc, and considering how big their series is, they're probably right? But it is kinda weird because you end up talking about what a series or characters "deserve", which... how do you measure that? Is a series deserving because it's good? Because it's famous? Influential? And then you start getting into micromanagement like "Pokemon has X and Mario has Y so FE needs to have Z because asdaduzgfagjz."

So in essence I have no idea.

On the topic of Isaac, I reckon it'd be a nice touch if he could use the Catch Psynergy as his grab animation, and also as a tether recovery.
I would go further than making it his grab. I think having at least one special move that's a ranged grab using the Catch Psynergy would be one effective way to make Isaac stand out.

I would prefer Felix to be honest, for reasons I won't specify....
Because he's more handsome. tongue

That is what I see uniqueness being- A matter of whether or not a character has something inherent about them, even if they are similar to others from an character archetype and design point-of-view, that helps to translate to something different within the context of Smash.
Well, yeah, it's something inherent. The thing is just that you seem to be focusing on the gameplay, which I'd argue should be secondary. If you ask me, even if Chrom had, for instance, that charging mechanic you described, he would still only seem like nothing but another guy with a sword. To anyone unfamiliar with FE, Marth, Ike and him would just be "the fast sword guy, the slow sword guy and the sword guy with the charging thing".

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#72253: Apr 9th 2015 at 12:10:39 PM

Adorable puffballs can't emote and thus couldn't have good taunts? Whaaaaat?

TroPartner Since: Nov, 2014
#72255: Apr 9th 2015 at 12:18:31 PM

Do you not know what a Kirby is?!

Ninety Absolutely no relation to NLK from Land of Quakes and Hills Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
Absolutely no relation to NLK
#72256: Apr 9th 2015 at 12:20:30 PM

What's this I hear about a new balance patch?

Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.
KSoniK Since: Jan, 2015
#72257: Apr 9th 2015 at 12:29:39 PM

Well, yeah, it's something inherent. The thing is just that you seem to be focusing on the gameplay, which I'd argue should be secondary. If you ask me, even if Chrom had, for instance, that charging mechanic you described, he would still only seem like nothing but another guy with a sword. To anyone unfamiliar with FE, Marth, Ike and him would just be "the fast sword guy, the slow sword guy and the sword guy with the charging thing".

Nah, more like "The blue-haired anime fast sword guy, the blue-haired anime slow sword guy and the blue-haired anime sword guy with the charging thing. Can't forget blue hair!tongue

Speaking of FE characters, for what it's worth, based on how the latest FE character is, I expect no more "plain old sword guys" as protagonists for future FE characters. But rather characters who would be as unique as Robin would be.

Enderspy (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: In bed with a green-skinned space babe
#72258: Apr 9th 2015 at 12:52:29 PM

[up]Actually, the protagonist of the new game appears to be another lord. His Final Smash might be unique (according to one scene in the last trailer, he can turn into a dragon), but otherwise, he might just be yet another swordsman.

Fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#72259: Apr 9th 2015 at 12:55:56 PM

Definitely looks pretty unique! I dunno, based on the overall style of the characters and the dragon thing, I imagine they probably have some pretty fancy skills beyond swinging a sword around.

Enderspy (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: In bed with a green-skinned space babe
#72260: Apr 9th 2015 at 1:02:15 PM

We might need to wait until we get more info to make a final judgement, but so far, all we know is he has a sword and a dragon transformation.

FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
feeling blue
#72261: Apr 9th 2015 at 1:10:43 PM

What I learned playing with that guy in the stream is that Ganondorf is effing scary if you start being too predictable.

Fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#72262: Apr 9th 2015 at 1:16:47 PM

You actually had a really solid start in the first match, though. You know, until he figured out, which of course he will because he's probably played against thousands of people thousands of times. All you need is some more practice playing against veterans like that and you could probably compete on their level.

Nap1100 Since: Mar, 2012
#72263: Apr 9th 2015 at 1:18:57 PM

@Ninety: Nintendo announced in the Direct that Mewtwo is coming with a balance patch. We don't know the contents of it, so we can only speculate.

Assumptions are that HOO HAH will get nerfed and Greninja will get hit again for some reason. tongue

powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The crabby fussbudget
#72264: Apr 9th 2015 at 1:21:01 PM

Who does "HOO HAH" mean? Diddy Kong?

AAAAUUUUGGGHHHH!!!!
BurntMario Oh hai TV Tropes from Your nightmares Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
Oh hai TV Tropes
#72265: Apr 9th 2015 at 1:24:49 PM

[up] "Hoo-hah" refers to Diddy Kong's down throw + up air combo, which is notorious for being a quick, easy-to-perform finishing move. It is one of the contributing factors of Diddy's top-tier status.

Call me Willy Whistle 'cause I can't speak, baby. Something in TV Tropes really drove me crazy.
powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The crabby fussbudget
#72266: Apr 9th 2015 at 1:28:09 PM

[up]Ah, I haven't attempted doing that combo but I suck at landing aerial attacks.

AAAAUUUUGGGHHHH!!!!
Ninety Absolutely no relation to NLK from Land of Quakes and Hills Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
Absolutely no relation to NLK
#72267: Apr 9th 2015 at 1:29:46 PM

Here's hoping for a Robin buff. Hey, it could happen!

Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.
BlitzTrain Since: Apr, 2014
#72268: Apr 9th 2015 at 1:36:10 PM

I didn't know that combo had a name, or what it was. I'm terrible with the technical aspects of Smash. Of course, that might be because this is the only place I get any of my Smash-Bros related information... tongue

Fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#72269: Apr 9th 2015 at 1:41:05 PM

Mewtwo for top tier, Diddy for bottom tier, let's go!

FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
feeling blue
#72270: Apr 9th 2015 at 1:41:51 PM

You actually had a really solid start in the first match, though. You know, until he figured out, which of course he will because he's probably played against thousands of people thousands of times. All you need is some more practice playing against veterans like that and you could probably compete on their level.

Implying I'm going to get to play many veterans =P

And in hindsight it probably wasn't a good idea to be so aggressive against Ganondorf but oh well.

BlitzTrain Since: Apr, 2014
#72271: Apr 9th 2015 at 1:46:52 PM

[up]Hey, you've confirmed there is at least on professional on the ladder. Good chance if you keep sticking around there you'll run into more!

Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#72272: Apr 9th 2015 at 1:48:00 PM

I'll, uh

I'll try getting some more online matches in once I've got the funds for a Pro Controller. I've gotten too used to the diamond layout to use the wired fight pad I got with the game and the Gamepad gets kinda heavy and cramp-inducing after a while

I sure said that!
Konkfan7 Konknitive Dissonance from Roselle Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Konknitive Dissonance
#72273: Apr 9th 2015 at 3:43:00 PM

I hope Diddy gets nerfed to the ground.

Yes, I am one of those people who hates Diddy with a passion.

In fact, I usually call him "F*ckboy".

To quote my brother, "Diddy Kong makes me hate my whole life."

Demonfly birdie fairy Since: Jul, 2012
birdie fairy
#72274: Apr 9th 2015 at 3:57:40 PM

He was already one tough Kong back in the decidedly less throw-friendly Brawl. They'd have to be doing far more work against him than warranted to put him anywhere outside of Top 20.

Work that could just as easily be going into improving other characters in favor of actual balance, might I add.

"Tell them to shut up and have some faith in me." - dead flashback guy
Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#72275: Apr 9th 2015 at 4:08:06 PM

All they need to do is fix Hoo-hah, right?


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