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Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#72226: Apr 8th 2015 at 9:40:58 PM

Djinn are slightly different. You can equip multiple of them, and they come in four different elements, which can be used to change your class or in summons.

Simplest way would be to give Isaac 4 Venus(Earth) Djinn.

I have a message from another time...
KSoniK Since: Jan, 2015
#72227: Apr 9th 2015 at 4:43:59 AM

I don't think you understand what I mean by "personality". The fact aside that Ike was a second FE lord rather than the third one Chrom would've been, which is a world of difference, there is nothing superficial about their similarities. Beyond, well, the blue hair and white skin and whatnot, of course. I couldn't care less about the properties of their pointy sticks. And I'm not sure Sakurai did, either - didn't someone say that Ike's sword actually has life-leeching abilities? Or was that Chrom? Guess it wasn't interesting enough either way!

Chrom's sword having life-leeching abilities was something minor to him and healing abilities was something Marth and Ike were already abe to do. The thing about Chrom was that every single notable ability he had were not just minor part of his fighting style but something that Marth and Ike were also able to do in their game. The only exception was using lances and even then it wasn't particularly important or unique to Chrom in general. That's what Sakurai meant when he said Chrom would have just been another plain sword-user like Marth and Ike and that in comparison to others he lacked any unique characteristics that he could bring to the table. That's where my argument about the properties of his sword came into play.

If, say, Chrom's Falcion was a sword with the ability to charge up and store up extra energy power for more strength and speed, being able to translate itself into a meter-managing gamplay style similar to C. Viper in Mv C 3

Ike's sword helped lend himself to the concept of him being a powerhouse sword user in order to contrast against Marth. Because even if Marth and Ike were blue-haired, male, anime-looking Fire Emblem protagonists with a cape and a heroic attitude, the properties of their sword and the overtly obvious gameplay style it helped bring them made them different enough mechanically even if flavour-wise they had similarities. Heck, they make the difference between Mario and Luigi look like the difference between Pit and Dark Pit in comparison. If Chrom had something like that in terms of uniqueness, like the example I brought up, he would have been deemed unique enough and he would have brought something different to the table from a gameplay point of view, even if he was another blue-haired, male, anime-looking Fire Emblem protagonist with a cape and a heroic attitude.

That is what I see uniqueness being- A matter of whether or not a character has something inherent about them, even if they are similar to others from an character archetype and design point-of-view, that helps to translate to something different within the context of Smash.

FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
KSoniK Since: Jan, 2015
#72229: Apr 9th 2015 at 6:32:24 AM

[up]I already posted that video before (but people didn't seem to care for some reason).

Still, it is amusing.

FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
feeling blue
#72230: Apr 9th 2015 at 6:37:15 AM

[up]... Oh. Now I know why it seemed familiar.

TheHeroHartmut Too hot to hoot from Probably not right behind you (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Singularity
Too hot to hoot
#72231: Apr 9th 2015 at 7:25:13 AM

On the topic of Isaac, I reckon it'd be a nice touch if he could use the Catch Psynergy as his grab animation, and also as a tether recovery.

edited 9th Apr '15 7:27:09 AM by TheHeroHartmut

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Beaver Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#72232: Apr 9th 2015 at 7:31:12 AM

I would prefer Felix to be honest, for reasons I won't specify....

Is this a Jo Jo reference?
powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The crabby fussbudget
#72233: Apr 9th 2015 at 7:39:20 AM

I have no idea who any of the Golden Sun characters are, but it would be cool for a character from that franchise to be playable in SSB.

AAAAUUUUGGGHHHH!!!!
FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
feeling blue
#72234: Apr 9th 2015 at 8:29:08 AM

So I just found out that I accidentally faced a Pro Smasher in the ladder and got destroyed by him.

Better yet, he streamed the whole thing tongue

BurntMario Oh hai TV Tropes from Your nightmares Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
Oh hai TV Tropes
#72235: Apr 9th 2015 at 8:33:29 AM

@72228: I'm surprised there hasn't been much buzz about update 1.0.6, which calls for, among other things, character balancing.

The "hoo-hah" has had a good run.

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Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#72236: Apr 9th 2015 at 8:39:59 AM

So another character patch is coming?

FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
feeling blue
#72237: Apr 9th 2015 at 8:41:02 AM

Alongside Mewtwo, yes.

Eskay64 Since: Nov, 2010
#72238: Apr 9th 2015 at 8:41:48 AM

I'm hoping Shulk's attacks become a couple frames faster, since both his startup and ending lag are his main hardships. I can live if they remain, though.

Demonfly birdie fairy Since: Jul, 2012
birdie fairy
#72239: Apr 9th 2015 at 8:42:51 AM

Watching the tweak scavenger hunt again should be fun, at least.

"Tell them to shut up and have some faith in me." - dead flashback guy
Eskay64 Since: Nov, 2010
#72240: Apr 9th 2015 at 8:44:15 AM

wild mass guessThey'll nerf Greninja again because a Dark-type is immune to the two incoming Psychicswild mass guess

Otherarrow Since: Jul, 2010
#72241: Apr 9th 2015 at 9:53:54 AM

Is it just me, or does anyone else find it odd when folks want a guy in who they aren't familiar with, but want in on principle?

Like, I think before Awakening got big, a lot of folks wanted a third FE rep without having played an FE game, or folks wanting a Golden Sun rep or even a third MOTHER rep.

Shrug.

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Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#72242: Apr 9th 2015 at 10:00:55 AM

So another character patch is coming?

Dear lord, we need to put Greninja in a witness protection program.

FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
feeling blue
#72243: Apr 9th 2015 at 10:10:00 AM

Guys the Greninja nerfs thing is getting really annoying now. He only was nerfed once and that was likely because Greninja's playstyle pre-patch (rushdown) wasn't what he was supposed to be (bait-and-punish).

Paperbritt Since: Apr, 2013
#72244: Apr 9th 2015 at 10:18:32 AM

[up][up][up] Speaking just for me, I was a fan of Shulk coming in because I love it when the Smash introduces entirely new franchises into the series. It makes the game feel like it has a bigger scope and it really is about getting as many Nintendo series as possible in this giant smackdown.

Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#72245: Apr 9th 2015 at 10:21:18 AM

It was also nice to have the star of the biggest part of Operation Rainfall show.

That he came with a giant robot who speaks entirely in memebait lines is pretty great, too.

I sure said that!
FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#72248: Apr 9th 2015 at 11:18:15 AM

[up][up][up]Seconding that latter statement. tongue

"Whatever yer doing, it looks... 'smashing'! Ah ha ha ha ha!"

edited 9th Apr '15 11:18:41 AM by Anomalocaris20

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Eldrake Since: Oct, 2009
#72249: Apr 9th 2015 at 11:30:45 AM

[up][up] You can always count on Matthew to have top tier taste.

Paperbritt Since: Apr, 2013
#72250: Apr 9th 2015 at 11:55:40 AM

Although he is filthy degenerate Ridley scum, the fact he's an indie dev who ISN'T begging fans for votes means he's a hero in my book.


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