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powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The crabby fussbudget
#72126: Apr 7th 2015 at 8:37:24 PM

[up]Like everyone's naming other FE characters but him.

AAAAUUUUGGGHHHH!!!!
Nap1100 Since: Mar, 2012
Otherarrow Since: Jul, 2010
#72128: Apr 7th 2015 at 9:14:33 PM

I do agree, I thought the support for Sigurd would be more heated than this.

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#72129: Apr 7th 2015 at 9:16:44 PM

Well, igniting discussion about him could help people give him a warmer reception, if that's your concern.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#72130: Apr 7th 2015 at 9:17:56 PM

It certainly is a... shocking development.

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Ekimmak Since: Nov, 2010
#72131: Apr 7th 2015 at 9:20:22 PM

Oi. I don't even know what happened, but I can tell, from these poorly-veiled jabs at the character.

Otherarrow Since: Jul, 2010
#72132: Apr 7th 2015 at 9:21:25 PM

What, Sigurd is just a good ol, hot blooded kinda guy. Can't we celebrate that?

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Numbuh1234 Since: Apr, 2014
#72133: Apr 7th 2015 at 9:25:04 PM

He ends up on fire, doesn't he?

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#72134: Apr 7th 2015 at 9:27:44 PM

If the question is burning on your mind you could just look it up quick as flint, yannow.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#72135: Apr 7th 2015 at 9:29:15 PM

Yeah, no need to be so cold about it.

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Otherarrow Since: Jul, 2010
#72136: Apr 7th 2015 at 9:30:12 PM

Well, we don't want to stab you in the back and spoil it for you. Genealogy of the Holy War is a hot game, considered to be one of the best in the series.

Though yeah, it's also very very different from any other game, so that might be a storm of meteors on your parade if you go in to it first or only familiar with Awakening.

edited 7th Apr '15 9:31:37 PM by Otherarrow

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Ekimmak Since: Nov, 2010
#72137: Apr 7th 2015 at 9:39:36 PM

I've played most of FE 7, so I have a rough idea of the step down in ability to grind (yeah, there were arenas, but I didn't use those).

I think a bigger problem would be trying to get an old game in Australia.

[down]I disagree, you can miss a shooting star.

These jokes have the subtlety of a semi-trailer through the front door.

edited 7th Apr '15 9:58:13 PM by Ekimmak

MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
Mr. Clueless
#72138: Apr 7th 2015 at 9:53:34 PM

Man, these Sigurd jokes have all the subtlety of a shooting star.

edited 7th Apr '15 9:53:46 PM by MightyMatilda

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Otherarrow Since: Jul, 2010
#72139: Apr 7th 2015 at 9:57:26 PM

Geez, you sound like someone stole your wife or something

...Though, yeah, OK. This is basically FE in reference nexus. I think we should stop.

edited 7th Apr '15 9:58:34 PM by Otherarrow

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#72140: Apr 7th 2015 at 10:00:03 PM

Yeah, I'm kinda burned out on it.

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Daydre That's just how it is on this bitch of an earth from in my house Since: Jun, 2014 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
That's just how it is on this bitch of an earth
#72141: Apr 7th 2015 at 10:00:51 PM

I just looked it up. Ouch.

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BlitzTrain Since: Apr, 2014
#72142: Apr 7th 2015 at 10:01:03 PM

Wear the ashes like a badge of honor then.

In other topic news... I've got nothing. Anyone on here managed to do that MALLC thing from a while ago? Think they'll patch that out in 1.06?

edited 7th Apr '15 10:02:09 PM by BlitzTrain

Eskay64 Since: Nov, 2010
#72143: Apr 7th 2015 at 10:06:06 PM

[up]Nah, they won't patch it out, nobody takes MALLC cops seriously.

-shot down for puns-

edited 7th Apr '15 10:11:36 PM by Eskay64

IrishZombie Since: Dec, 2009
#72144: Apr 7th 2015 at 10:34:50 PM

I appear to have found a weakness in the All-Star AI.

Since bum-rushing them tended to end badly for me, I decided to change things up by being very cautious. Which really just means I rolled almost exclusively to move around. My gratuitous rolling seemed to confuse the computer enough that they would just stand there dumbly as I smashed them into oblivion.

edited 7th Apr '15 10:35:49 PM by IrishZombie

Fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#72145: Apr 8th 2015 at 1:18:25 AM

Oh wow. I take it Sigurd is the guy people actually managed to win me over for years ago in the Smash World Forums because he just had it so freaking rough everyone wants to have him in Smash just to make him happy?

I just figured out the real reason for the ballot. It's not about learning who is popular (though it might give them a nudge on who to give priority to). It's about creating buzz and getting people to talk about the game. You've got indies to fellow publishers to rivals in the console space chatting about who to add. That kind of visibility is always nice, and they barely have to put in any effort.
That's definitely part of it, but I think the main reason is in fact to gauge popularity. DLC characters are going to be a constant investment, so they have to make sure it'll generate constant profit by selecting characters that will definitely sell.

Didn't stop Ike in Brawl. The thing about Chrom was that Sakurai really did feel that Chrom didn't have anything inherently unique about him from a gameplay and moveset point-of-view, not because of superficial similarities that have nothing to do with gameplay diversity such as blue hair and attitude (The Ice Climbers, R.O.B. and Mr. Game and Watch have no personality and that didn't stop them from making it into a Smash game in the first place). If, say, Chrom's Falcion was a sword with the ability to charge up and store up extra energy power for more strength and speed, being able to translate itself into a meter-managing gamplay style similar to C. Viper in Mv C 3, he wouldn't be seen as another sword-fighter.
I don't think you understand what I mean by "personality". The fact aside that Ike was a second FE lord rather than the third one Chrom would've been, which is a world of difference, there is nothing superficial about their similarities. Beyond, well, the blue hair and white skin and whatnot, of course. I couldn't care less about the properties of their pointy sticks. And I'm not sure Sakurai did, either - didn't someone say that Ike's sword actually has life-leeching abilities? Or was that Chrom? Guess it wasn't interesting enough either way!

You know, I have this friend who was all looking forward to Smash 4, but then didn't get the game after all because he was dissatisfied with what he felt was a roster full of anime people. Whether you agree with that opinion or not, he doesn't have it for no reason. Smash is a game that exists for characters like the Ice Climbers and Game&Watch. They absolutely do have personality... or perhaps a better term would be "color" or "flavor". They're two adorable kids in parkas with teamwork and giant hammers, and a funny Eldritch Abomination from the second dimension. If you want cool, handsome men with swords hitting each other, you can play Soul Calibur. Smash Bros lives from having a colorful roster full of wildly different personalities and styles.

As I said, Shovel Knight is ultimately just another sword user, but I absolutely support him because he would bring a sort of spirit with him that isn't quite like anything else in the current roster. The blade has nothing to do with it, and gameplay is just a slave to a concept that's worth the effort. Marth and Ike both just feel like the fast and the slow "hero guy with a sword". Shovel Knight would feel fun. And I would've supported Chrom not if his sword had some sort of property that makes it better at hitting things or something, but if he was, say, a fun-loving lord in colorful Arabian clothes with a penchant for drinking too much in celebration of his most recent victories, or something. Something that makes it feel more like you're playing a character rather than a set of hitboxes.

Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#72146: Apr 8th 2015 at 1:54:21 AM

If you want cool, handsome men with swords hitting each other, you can play Soul Calibur. Smash Bros lives from having a colorful roster full of wildly different personalities and styles.
But, but!

What if I want cool, handsome men hitting children in parkas with their swords, hm? Smash is fundamentally silly but still has an essence of cool to it all- I think it's a perfect sweetspot of a game where just about any flavor works.

I sure said that!
Fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#72147: Apr 8th 2015 at 2:03:00 AM

Well, of course. I probably overemphasized "fun" personalities... I don't mean to say that "cool" has no place in the game. But the particular kind of cool that Chrom offers is quite present enough already, is what I mean. There are endless different flavors of "cool", too - Ridley would be cool, Travis Touchdown would be cool, Snake was cool, but all of them in much different ways.

Watchtower Since: Jul, 2010
#72148: Apr 8th 2015 at 4:11:53 AM

@Fawriel: Since the topic's come back up and I didn't respond before, figure I might as well do it now.

Reading everything through, I realize we were talking about two very different things. You've been talking exclusively on picking out worthy newcomers, whereas I was talking about spicing up the veterans that didn't exactly get the love that some of the newer faces have gotten. And I don't see why our two viewpoints can't coexist, because when it comes to newcomers I agree with you 100%.

edited 8th Apr '15 4:12:35 AM by Watchtower

powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The crabby fussbudget
#72149: Apr 8th 2015 at 6:21:17 AM

Sigurd: Wasn't he going to be the first FE protagonist in a Smash Bros game?

AAAAUUUUGGGHHHH!!!!
Hungryguy I am a Rad Reptile. from inside a cheese wheel Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
I am a Rad Reptile.
#72150: Apr 8th 2015 at 7:24:04 AM

What if, you could charge throws like a smash attack?

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