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TechPowah Just a simple hero from the room down the hall Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#72051: Apr 7th 2015 at 6:32:05 AM

We DO already have a thread for fan-made fighting game movesets, just use that one. tongue

edited 7th Apr '15 6:32:43 AM by TechPowah

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Hungryguy I am a Rad Reptile. from inside a cheese wheel Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#72052: Apr 7th 2015 at 6:58:58 AM

I just realized how legendarily awesome it would be for Banjo & Kazooie to make a return to Nintendo system as a fighter in Smash.

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Fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#72054: Apr 7th 2015 at 8:41:21 AM

And calling it a "high honor" might be a bit of a stretch, but Smash has gained such a massive reputation over the years.
I don't even think it's a stretch. Smash Bros is kind of a legendary ensemble of characters from a legendary videogame producer, and the game itself is verging on legendary status as well. Having a character in the game is the best possible advertisement you could ask for.

That's kinda what I was talking about earlier when I said that the fact that folks like Wayforward are actually campaigning for their character means that they don't stand much of a chance. They have to mobilize people to vote for their character because success would mean an incredible break for them that really puts their games on the radar for millions of people who likely never heard of them, and cements their status as the "indie icon" they keep insisting Shantae is, putting her in the same league as characters like Mario and Sonic. Meanwhile, Rare is busy being a company actually in the same league, so people come to them asking if they would be up for it and they can just make some intern on Twitter say "yeah sure" and still end up with several times as many votes.

... It's kind of depressing to think about, but yeah. The fact that indie developers are rallying for their character just shows that it's a dream way out of their league.

(I do think they're probably aware of it - that Shantae poster wasn't exactly a huge investment, and you can't exactly mobilize people well if you don't let them think that there's a chance of success.)

...

I've been getting way too into discussing this stuff. God, I hope they'll actually give us some sort of heads-up very soon after the poll closes. I might just get a heart attack if they just say "okay, done" and then give us no info at all until they announce K.Rool at some point in the summer.

edited 7th Apr '15 8:43:36 AM by Fawriel

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#72055: Apr 7th 2015 at 8:44:55 AM

The Robins as the Lovers arcana made little sense to me too.

It's not the two Robins, it's Female Robin and Chrom. Male Robin is going to be The Magician.

edited 7th Apr '15 8:47:26 AM by FullMoon

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#72056: Apr 7th 2015 at 8:55:30 AM

The Fool should be 8-Bit Pit. Or possibly Lucas.

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#72057: Apr 7th 2015 at 9:02:02 AM

The Fool is going to be Wario I believe. Ness and Lucas are going to be The Sun and The Moon.

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#72058: Apr 7th 2015 at 9:07:56 AM

Respectively? Because I can see that.

No clue why Wario would be the Fool. He's more suited to something from the Coins/Pentacles suit. Probably either Four or King.

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#72059: Apr 7th 2015 at 9:10:14 AM

Yes, respectively.

This is just major arcana though. I can't see how Wario wouldn't be The Fool considering, well, everything about him.

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#72060: Apr 7th 2015 at 9:13:31 AM

I'd prefer 8-bit Pit. Fits the theme of as-yet-unrealized potential and all that jazz.

Also, Pit is pretty goofy just in general, so it fits the card imagery as well.

edited 7th Apr '15 9:17:25 AM by Enlong

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Watchtower Since: Jul, 2010
#72061: Apr 7th 2015 at 9:21:54 AM

Meanwhile, Rare is busy being a company actually in the same league, so people come to them asking if they would be up for it and they can just make some intern on Twitter say "yeah sure" and still end up with several times as many votes.

First, it's hard to treat Rare in the same league when they're trapped silent in the Microsoft dungeons. tongue

Second (and more seriously), I get that anyone running the company Twitter can give a yes, but what makes the Rare and Banjo Kazooie case so big is that the OK is coming right from the head honcho himself. It is, at the very least, a smart PR move that makes him look good and shifts all the focus onto Nintendo's willingness to play ball (which you can arguably extend to any company that says yes, though it means a lot more coming from the head).

edited 7th Apr '15 9:23:42 AM by Watchtower

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#72062: Apr 7th 2015 at 9:24:42 AM

[up][up] 8-bit Pit isn't a playable character though...

Pit is The Fly. Which if you think about it can be a bit funny.

Fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#72063: Apr 7th 2015 at 9:26:25 AM

Ahh, I didn't pay attention to the details there because I'm not personally interesting in Banjo and Kazooie. I just used it as a general example to compare different "leagues". But yeah, with enough support, that does sound pretty good for them.

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#72064: Apr 7th 2015 at 9:26:42 AM

He's one representation of a playable character. Possibly the art for the card would have current-day Pit as a faded background image to show what he will become.

I'm guessing the Fly is a CCS card? Probably referring to the concept of flight rather than the insect?

Edit: Lucina would make a pretty good Chariot.

edited 7th Apr '15 9:32:59 AM by Enlong

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#72065: Apr 7th 2015 at 9:35:08 AM

The Fly is probably about the concept of flight, but if you think about it as the insect and the fact that Pit is it, it becomes a bit amusing

Bowser Jr is the Chariot, I believe it's even one of his Boxing Ring titles in the game, dunno which version though.

Lucina is The Princess.

The cards are ordered in Character Select screen order, so you can pretty much look it all up easily.

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#72066: Apr 7th 2015 at 10:30:51 AM

I've been watching a bunch of reaction videos for the Mewtwo and Lucas trailers and I cannot believe how many people didn't know about Mewtwo's meteor smash.

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#72067: Apr 7th 2015 at 10:37:11 AM

I think what people are getting hyped about is that the move seems a bit faster than it was in Melee (and by extension Project M), so it's easier to get kills with it.

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#72068: Apr 7th 2015 at 10:43:06 AM

But all of them keep yelling about how new it is! They just flat out didn't know about it!

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Fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#72069: Apr 7th 2015 at 10:45:44 AM

Also, the up-smash looks a lot stronger? It's hard to tell since you can't see the victims' percent, of course, but I didn't notice any smoke coming off of them or anything, so unless they turned it off for the recording, they can't have been that badly damaged, and it had all the graphic treatment of a decisive finishing blow.

[up] Huh, that's weird. That's... really weird. Why would you even react to it if you don't know that much about Mewtwo in Melee? Why would it even seem special then? I dunno.

edited 7th Apr '15 10:46:47 AM by Fawriel

Zarek Rollin' rollin' rollin' from Jakku Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#72070: Apr 7th 2015 at 10:54:30 AM

Here's a thought: maybe human brains aren't perfect and they don't remember his down-smash?

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#72071: Apr 7th 2015 at 10:56:11 AM

[up] Down Aerial.

Also Mewtwo being low tier probably contribute to people not really knowing much about him from the competitive side and there was such a big gap between Melee and Sm4sh that the casual players probably forgot about it.

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#72072: Apr 7th 2015 at 11:02:11 AM

Since we're talking about Mewtwo, did Mew2king actually main Mewtwo at some point?

Nap1100 Since: Mar, 2012
#72073: Apr 7th 2015 at 11:13:40 AM

Not main, but subbed as him occasionally. I think he did main Mewtwo in PM at some point, though.

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#72074: Apr 7th 2015 at 1:26:41 PM

I wouldn't mind Banjo and Kazooie getting in as DLC...I liked what I played of the original Banjo-Kazooie (in fact, their appearance in the XBOX 360 version of Sonic and SEGA All Stars Racing is the reason why I got an XBOX 360)

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IrishZombie Since: Dec, 2009
#72075: Apr 7th 2015 at 1:29:08 PM

I want to strangle whoever designed Smash 4's All-Star Mode right about now.

As well as whoever came up with the challenges for the Wii U version.


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