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Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#71876: Apr 5th 2015 at 3:54:42 PM

... I sorta hope Smash 5 has a solo-exploration mode for Smash Run or something similar. Like, travel around and survive as long as possible, gathering rewards and fighting not only enemies but bosses. No story needed to have a cool adventure mode, y'know?

I sure said that!
Konkfan7 Konknitive Dissonance from Roselle Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Konknitive Dissonance
#71877: Apr 5th 2015 at 4:00:42 PM

Waddle Dee (or Bandana Dee, as I call him) is a definite character, although just being of the Waddle Dee race.

In Return To Dreamland, he has a variety of attacks that involve his spear that could potentially make for a good moveset.

Plus, we haven't had a spear wielder yet.

Demonfly birdie fairy Since: Jul, 2012
birdie fairy
#71878: Apr 5th 2015 at 4:09:51 PM

Next I am going to hear arguments on how Goomba is totes a viable fighter.

See, there was never a Goomba that made a solo appearance as the most relentless boss in the series

Which incidentally is another point in WD's favor since we all know Sakurai loves him some Super Star

"Tell them to shut up and have some faith in me." - dead flashback guy
Fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#71879: Apr 5th 2015 at 4:11:47 PM

Remember what I said about movesets? The weapon a character wields is exactly the least relevant aspect you could possibly consider. All a spear means is long hitboxes. That's all it is. There would inevitably be some uses of the spear as a staff. That is effectively the exact same thing as sword slashes. There is no benefit whatsoever under any circumstances and in any conceivable universe of putting all the necessary effort into making a character playable just because the thing they hit people with looks different than other people-hitter-withers.

And Bandana Dee is a filler character. He's perfectly cute and all within the context of his games, but he's not exactly bursting with personality and he doesn't add any of that Dreamworld flair that's not already incorporated in Kirby and Dedede, or even Metaknight if the weapon is really that important to you.

Hungryguy I am a Rad Reptile. from inside a cheese wheel Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
I am a Rad Reptile.
#71880: Apr 5th 2015 at 4:14:56 PM

I don't know why I want him, I just want him.

I'm glad I didn't vote for K. Rool, since he apparently doesn't need my support.

Call me butter, because I am on a roll! 3ds friend code: 5258-0885-3903 Wii U: Bowser Charizard
Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#71881: Apr 5th 2015 at 4:17:58 PM

I want Shovel Knight because he hits people good.

I have a message from another time...
DiscoDancer EUREKA! from California (or Japan) Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
EUREKA!
#71882: Apr 5th 2015 at 4:23:52 PM

On the topic of DLC characters, do you think they will all get one DLC trailer, or each get a different one? Or will there even be a trailer?

Your Honor...
Eldrake Since: Oct, 2009
#71883: Apr 5th 2015 at 4:25:19 PM

Well, Mewtwo and Lucas got trailers, so it's safe to assume that future DLC characters will get trailers.

CGI trailers? Well, Mewtwo and Lucas didn't get that. Maybe for newcomers.

edited 5th Apr '15 4:25:51 PM by Eldrake

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#71884: Apr 5th 2015 at 4:25:20 PM

It doesn't surprise me about K. Rool. He's insanely popular in Japan, despite being made by Rare.

He's been topping Smash Bros. polls east and west since before this ballot thingy.

Anyway, I think I'll use my vote to show my support for Structurally Rigid Fundamental State of Matter Limbless Reptile returning, especially since I'm currently playing Metal Gear Solid for the first time (And deeply enjoying it). I don't know what the stance on third parties is, but hopefully being a vet gives him some level of clearance above voting for others.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
rmctagg09 The Wanderer from Brooklyn, NY (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
The Wanderer
#71885: Apr 5th 2015 at 4:28:13 PM

But not all limbless reptiles are ophidians. tongue

Hugging a Vanillite will give you frostbite.
Fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#71886: Apr 5th 2015 at 4:35:14 PM

... Okay, before I go down in thread history as Supreme Asslord, let me add a disclaimer: I'm aware that wielding a spear looks different from wielding a sword, and in theory a spear style can be all cool and twirly and stuff, and wanting a character to have a cool style like that is fair enough, BUT:

  • Existing characters haven't exactly set a great precedent for fancy fighting styles since, in the end, it still has to work. Metaknight is all spectacular and fancy but his slashes have to be quick and effective and ultimately kind of boring so that he can do his Metaknight thing (and also because he's kinda lacking in the limb department), and
  • That's cool, let another character who has more going for them but a weapon do it.

Also wanting a character simply because you like them is fine, but a lot of the time it simply wouldn't make the game... better. I don't want to spoil anyone's individual fun here, but I'm frustrated by thousands of people actively pushing for additions that don't actually add anything in my eyes. (Before anyone calls me out on this, I'm trying to only make arguments that I can reasonably defend. There's a lot of character choices I'm only against because of personal taste, but I won't complain about them if they still meet my criteria for a worthwhile character.)

(And now I'm going to bed!)

Keybreak (Long Runner)
#71887: Apr 5th 2015 at 4:41:04 PM

Goomba as a fighter is funny because Goombas have no arms, so it'd have to use its mouth for grabbing opponents and ledges.

And most of itsw attacks would consist of headbutts and charges.

And its Final Smash would either be turning into a Giant Goomba, or growing wings, or both...

You gotta believe me when I scare you away, all that I wish for is that you would stay
Hungryguy I am a Rad Reptile. from inside a cheese wheel Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
I am a Rad Reptile.
#71888: Apr 5th 2015 at 4:42:33 PM

I do understand why people wouldn't want someone like Bandanna Dee, but I just love him so much that I simply must support him.

Call me butter, because I am on a roll! 3ds friend code: 5258-0885-3903 Wii U: Bowser Charizard
powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The crabby fussbudget
#71889: Apr 5th 2015 at 4:52:28 PM

[up]He's also the most likely Kirby character to get in as DLC...

Unless Sakurai decides to add in a character from ''Kirby: Right Back At Ya!".

AAAAUUUUGGGHHHH!!!!
Keybreak (Long Runner)
#71890: Apr 5th 2015 at 4:55:56 PM

"Escargoon Crawls Right Back At Ya!"

You gotta believe me when I scare you away, all that I wish for is that you would stay
powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The crabby fussbudget
#71891: Apr 5th 2015 at 5:06:57 PM

[up]I was thinking more along the lines of the kinda-sorta one shot character Silica as she is a badass.

AAAAUUUUGGGHHHH!!!!
FawfulCrump Since: Dec, 2010
#71892: Apr 5th 2015 at 5:47:24 PM

I like the idea of a playable Bandanna Dee being a Composite Character of multiple Waddle Dees, with both a spear and a parasol. And maybe bombs like in Mass Attack, if we want to get a little obscure. Makes about as much sense as Dedede suddenly having a rocket hammer in Brawl.

Also, it does my heart good to see two of my "wishful thinking" characters from my bingo card so high on that wanted characters list, assuming the people who made the list didn't just BS it, anyway.

edited 5th Apr '15 5:54:10 PM by FawfulCrump

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#71893: Apr 5th 2015 at 5:51:06 PM

Bandanna Dee is the most likely and obvious fourth Kirby rep if we had any, and his spear could offer a pretty unique moveset based on the Spear power from Kirby's Return to Dreamland.

He'd be a fun addition, though he's fairly low-priority for me.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Enderspy (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: In bed with a green-skinned space babe
#71894: Apr 5th 2015 at 6:20:28 PM

@Fawriel: I think you're forgetting that, in the eyes of many, Sakurai included, having an interesting and unique moveset(clones aside) is just as important as relevance to their home series/Nintendo in general.

BloatedCreeper The One and Many from Area N Since: Jan, 2013 Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
The One and Many
#71895: Apr 5th 2015 at 6:24:48 PM

Plus the Kirby devs are pushing Bandana Dee's existence as not a mook with a bandanna, but also as a character.

I'm the guy who knows how to make games but doesn't. 3DS FC: 2878-9776-7579
Ekimmak Since: Nov, 2010
#71896: Apr 5th 2015 at 6:24:56 PM

I just saw that list of votes(was hidden pretty well in these forums.

At least I wasn't alone in Crash votes. 1.52%, tied with Ghirahim isn't bad, considering he's up against a memorable Nintendo console villain.

Keybreak (Long Runner)
#71898: Apr 5th 2015 at 7:36:40 PM

Some character requests.

You gotta believe me when I scare you away, all that I wish for is that you would stay
Grounder Main Character Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: All is for my lord
Main Character
#71899: Apr 5th 2015 at 8:22:38 PM

[up]I would legitimately like to see Bubsy redeem himself a bit in Smash.

So sue me.

[up][up] Team Meat's general pissy attitude towards Nintendo (sans Binding of Issac, it would seem) makes me want no Meat Boy purely on principal.

This really soured my opinion of them a couple years back.

The sheer arrogance on display here (free licensing aside) really makes me angry.

edited 5th Apr '15 8:27:48 PM by Grounder

Demonfly birdie fairy Since: Jul, 2012
birdie fairy
#71900: Apr 5th 2015 at 9:28:06 PM

Said link also establishes that such ire applies to all modern console companies, not just Nintendo (and that would appear to be based on personal experience as well). Rather tactless wording aside, I'm not really seeing it the issue.

Not that any of this holds much more merit than Suda51 wanting Travis Touchdown thrown in, of course (though in fairness at least these guys are trying to revitalize interest in the prospect).

edited 5th Apr '15 9:33:11 PM by Demonfly

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