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FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
feeling blue
#71776: Apr 4th 2015 at 9:09:30 PM

So as it happens it turns out that I'll be doing a video where I'll be doing commentary after all.

Or rather, I'll be streaming a Smashboards tournament made by the group of people I'm part of, and of course I'm going to be doing commentary in the match alongside someone else.

So yeah this just happened. We don't have a certain date for it yet, but we're doing it after the 15th after the balance patch arrives.

edited 4th Apr '15 9:09:45 PM by FullMoon

NEO from Qrrbrbirlbel Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
#71777: Apr 4th 2015 at 9:11:28 PM

I still didn't vote because I'm so conflicted.

Should I just vote Wolf? I mean, I really want him to return. But what if Ninty already plans to make him after Lucas anyways? Maybe I'll vote for someone from Metroid, an underrepresented series. But who? Metroid doesn't have many characters on the first place, and Ridley is unlikely. U-Mos maybe? U-Mos would be pretty cool. What about a third-party series? It's unlikely but hey, Bomberman would be nice. So would be Rayman. So would be Snake returning. Banjo-Kazooie would be just perfect, but it's so unlikely it hurts my soul. And what about Saki? Or Isa/Kachi, since Saki is already an Assist Trophy? Some other Kong? Or King K. Rool? Another F-Zero character, like Black Shadow (although I'd rather have him take Ganondorf's current place and give Ganon an entirely new moveset)? Pokémon Ranger with his Pokemon popping up and attacking? But maybe there are too many Pokemon characters already. Any Advance Wars character? I freaking love Advance Wars. Or maybe...

I... just can't.

No regret shall pass over the threshold!
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#71778: Apr 4th 2015 at 9:15:55 PM

I'm thinking of using my vote on Snake returning. I REALLY want him to return, he was awesome to have in Brawl.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The crabby fussbudget
#71779: Apr 4th 2015 at 9:16:54 PM

[up]The issue with Snake lies with the fact that they'd have to get rights from Konami, and Kojima apparently left, so that complicates things.

AAAAUUUUGGGHHHH!!!!
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#71780: Apr 4th 2015 at 9:18:31 PM

I'm aware of the rights issue. But I don't have anyone else to really vote for that isn't already impossible (Ridley, Kamek).

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The crabby fussbudget
#71781: Apr 4th 2015 at 9:21:43 PM

[up]You can probably give a vote to another DK character like Dixie Kong or King K. Rool.

AAAAUUUUGGGHHHH!!!!
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#71782: Apr 4th 2015 at 9:23:18 PM

I was considering K. Rool, but I'd rather have Snake back.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Daydre That's just how it is on this bitch of an earth from in my house Since: Jun, 2014 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
That's just how it is on this bitch of an earth
#71783: Apr 4th 2015 at 9:23:45 PM

http://concore.tumblr.com/?ref_url=http://concore.tumblr.com/post/115495712981/smash-bros-fighter-ballot-viable-contender-list/embed

Has anyone seen this? It might help.

edited 4th Apr '15 9:27:00 PM by Daydre

we will survive.
Watchtower Since: Jul, 2010
#71784: Apr 4th 2015 at 9:27:27 PM

I refuse to accept Ridley as an impossible choice. I don't care that Sakurai himself says he's too big. Find a way goddammit.

So I've heard you can only vote once, and that voting after you've already voted just replaced your old vote with your new one. Bottom line, I'm torn, because damn are there just so many good choices. Don't know if I should jump the bandwagon on a popular choice in hopes of helping it go through or throw in something off-the-rails for kicks.

edited 4th Apr '15 9:28:07 PM by Watchtower

Elbruno Mummy Woomy from Chile: Not As Dry As Space! Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Mummy Woomy
#71785: Apr 4th 2015 at 9:29:24 PM

@Full Moon: Interesting. Is it your first time doing something like that?

@NEO: Inkling. Vote for the Inklings. It's the only way.

"Yeah, it's a shame. Here we are in an underground cave with all these lasers, and instead of having a rave we're using it for evil."
Nap1100 Since: Mar, 2012
#71786: Apr 4th 2015 at 9:30:56 PM

[up][up]Use multiple computers. Problem solved.

Karxrida from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
#71787: Apr 4th 2015 at 9:39:15 PM

[up][up][up]An explicit no from Word of God > what the fandom wants. Voting for Ridley is just a waste of time.

edited 4th Apr '15 9:42:16 PM by Karxrida

Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#71788: Apr 4th 2015 at 9:42:35 PM

If we're being pedantic, the Ridley on Pyrosphere isn't really him, but his clone.

Seriously, though, Sakurai was a huge jerk to tease Ridley for so long and then just reveal him as a glorified stage hazard.

I sure said that!
MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
Mr. Clueless
#71789: Apr 4th 2015 at 9:42:57 PM

Regarding that Tumblr post, I still say that getting Geno is pretty unlikely. It all depends on how Square-Enix feels about this.

[up]I like to think that he assumed people would know Ridley wouldn't be playable, and that the idea of Ridley being such never really crossed his mind.

edited 4th Apr '15 9:44:27 PM by MightyMatilda

De Romanīs, lingua Latina gloriosa non fuī.
Watchtower Since: Jul, 2010
#71790: Apr 4th 2015 at 9:43:41 PM

Don't crush my hopes and dreams

(Understand I wrote that in quasi-jest. While I would still love to see him in, voting for him is kind of a waste because, well, he's already in the game, albeit not playable. There's a better chance in Sakurai changing his mind come Smash 5 like he did with Animal Crossing between Brawl and 4.)

[up][up] If it's anything like J Stars Victory Vs, then the very fact that he's in the game in any capacity is hype enough. Judging from response in both cases, most would disagree.

edited 4th Apr '15 9:46:12 PM by Watchtower

Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#71791: Apr 4th 2015 at 9:45:44 PM

Whereas I maintain that pushing for skinny purple Ridley might actually make something happen.

Let me dream that Sakurai doesn't hate Metroid fans for just a little longer!

I sure said that!
Karxrida from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
feeling blue
#71793: Apr 4th 2015 at 9:46:19 PM

@Full Moon: Interesting. Is it your first time doing something like that?

Pretty much. Fortunately I'll have someone to talk to during the commentary instead of awkwardly speaking to an invisible crowd.

Doesn't mean I'm not afraid of messing up though tongue

Eskay64 Since: Nov, 2010
#71794: Apr 4th 2015 at 9:47:38 PM

I really don't think Ridley was "teased" at all. I hadn't seen any hints about Ridley being involved in the first place, just a lot of fan bickering about him.

Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#71795: Apr 4th 2015 at 9:52:37 PM

Basically, ever since the Pyrosphere stage was revealed, Sakurai refused to call Ridley by name, and it was very hard not to read it as misdirection regarding his status. Then the 50-Fact Extravaganza happened and the apparent buildup over an entire year came to a huge anticlimax, revealing that Ridley was just a glorified stage hazard. I and a lot of other people just really wish he'd have bitten the bullet and admitted that Rids wasn't a meaningful presence the game instead of leaving us on edge for months and months.

edited 4th Apr '15 9:53:17 PM by Pulse

I sure said that!
Keybreak (Long Runner)
#71796: Apr 4th 2015 at 9:52:55 PM

I find that new installments grow in their inclusivity.

In 64, it was mostly just the big franchise lead characters (and Jigglypuff).

In Melee it was supporting characters, villains and clones.

In Brawl it was new game characters, new clones and third parties.

Now Smash 4 has character alts, clones, more third parties and the players themselves.

By 5, it'll be more Assist Trophies and/or stage hazards, popular third parties from newer games, and clones of everybody.

And a fighting representation of the controller.

edited 4th Apr '15 9:53:31 PM by Keybreak

You gotta believe me when I scare you away, all that I wish for is that you would stay
Watchtower Since: Jul, 2010
#71797: Apr 4th 2015 at 9:54:05 PM

Alright, I can already see the old pain-in-the-ass debates starting to rear their ugly heads again, and this time I feel responsible.

I apologize for instigating it. It would be in everyone's best interest to just end it now and move on.

Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Enderspy (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: In bed with a green-skinned space babe
#71799: Apr 4th 2015 at 9:56:25 PM

A better link to the picture Daydre posted. Things of note:

  • Geno isn't in the 3rd party section.
  • Several odd choices in the frontrunners, including Rick, Machamp, Lanky Kong, Porky, and ... whoever the hell Doshin is.
  • Ridley is only 12 in the "already in the game" section.

Demonfly birdie fairy Since: Jul, 2012
birdie fairy
#71800: Apr 4th 2015 at 9:56:42 PM

Geno

Has Smash even bothered to directly reference Super Mario RPG at any point? Of all the obscure Ninty choices to bring up, I can't wrap my head around how this can be seen as a possible shot.

"Tell them to shut up and have some faith in me." - dead flashback guy

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