It does happen...but it's still just empty space, it loops.
Rules of the Internet 45. Rule 45 is a lie. Check out my art if you notice.
That's kinda what I meant. It doesn't take you to, say, the Star Wolf dogfight or the Space Battle from Assault's opening, or Corneria, or the Asteroid Belt.
So, today in Smash, I learned a few more things.
- B-reversing! I did it a lot on accident playing with Pikachu today.
- Zelda-Dedede is a team combination that probably shouldn't have worked as well as it did.
- Ganondorf-Bowser is probably an even worse combination that shouldn't have worked as well as it did either.
- Zelda's up air actually beats out Pac-Man's fire hydrant if you can land it before it hits you. I actually didn't think you could beat Pac-Man's fire hydrant out of the air until that lucky hit.
I cling to all hopes of them being DLC characters.
The Hydrant is never not vulnerable to damage, the only thing is finding out what characters have air attacks that are strong enough to intercept it.
edited 31st Jan '15 12:12:57 AM by randomness4
Rules of the Internet 45. Rule 45 is a lie. Check out my art if you notice.In regards DLC, I don't really know what to expect post-Mewtwo. I'd like to have at least the Brawl cuts back, but Snake has licensing issues and any Pokemon are probably right out considering how much space they already have on the roster (for the record, if a Pokemon is readded I'm hedging (heh) my bets on Ivysaur to round out the type trio).
Lucas has a chance, though not a great one considering he won't be getting a new addition to his series (unless that coy mention of Mother 3 at the E3 Direct last year amounts to anything, though I'm not crossing my fingers) ever. Wolf is the most likely veteran to return - we're getting a new Starfox game this year, so marketability is there. Ice Climbers won't come back, for reasons everyone else has already mentioned.
I also have a sneaking suspicion that 8-Player smash was added after they saw that the Wii U version wouldn't have to handle 16 A.I.s simultaneously thanks to the I Cs being cut.
In terms of DLC Newcomers? Anything's possible, though the most likely of those would be the Rhythm Heaven character that was cut during development. I'm kind of apathetic about newcomers, though, since all my thoughts about DLC seem to track back to the possibility of Lucas's return and apart from said Rhythm Heaven concept I have literally no idea who'd be chosen.
In short, characters I want via DLC:
- Lucas (#1 main in Brawl, inspired me to try a series I ended up hugely enjoying)
- Wolf (I understand your pain, Wolf Fans, though I'm rubbish at the spacies myself - I don't think anyone should go through the experience of losing their mains)
- Rhythm Heaven Character
- Ivysaur/Squirtle
- Sceptile? (A way to finish the Fire-Water-Grass trio going on in the roster, a bit too late to cash in on ORAS hype though)
- Toon Ganondorf/Hyrule Warriors Ganondorf/Any Ganondorf that isn't just a Captain Falcon clone, though I do hugely enjoy Ganon's current moveset - landing any hits make you feel like a god. Maybe he could have a Playing Tennis with the Boss move, too, since he's done it in pretty much any game he's fightable in. Make it work like Dedede's gordos, but after firing the move turns into a quick cape reflector.
- Inkling? I mean, a Splatoon demo's at APEX, so there's a precedent I guess.
- Please, if Dixie Kong turns up don't give her that dumb Hoo-Ha combo.
- Cranky Kong
...uh, I didn't mean to make such a huge wall of text. Oops.
edited 31st Jan '15 3:17:37 AM by Razamafoo
This is part of why I kinda dislike the obsession with tiers found in some corners of Smash's fanbase- It often turns into a self-fulfilling prophecy, with higher tiers getting more experimentation done and thus more techniques than lower tiers, who look worse and worse next to the higher tiers because so little has been found for them, and the cycle repeats.
... Not that tiers don't exist, mind. They absolutely do- No game is ever going to achieve perfectly balanced casts.
I sure said that!It's even more of a waste considering how balanced this Smash is. Every character can work, yet everyone gravitates to the top 5 just because statistically they're better and so the meta of the other characters don't develop as much as theirs and so they can't catch up.
Granted, I doubt the more dedicated fans of the characters are going to just stop using them, I certainly won't, but it's still kinda sad.
On the other hand, those who do end up using the lower-tier character to win tournaments end up being considered some of the best players. Look at Kuroda's Q.
Lucas just won't work simply as a Ness costume, for they did have noticeable differences in Brawl. For instance, their up and down smashes are completely different. Ness and Lucas can be compared to Mario and Luigi and Fox and Falco in that regard.
Plus, PK Freeze is already a custom move for Ness. I'd imagine there would be a different set of alternate specials for Lucas that would allow PK Freeze to still be his default standard special.
edited 31st Jan '15 11:55:59 AM by BurntMario
Call me Willy Whistle 'cause I can't speak, baby. Something in TV Tropes really drove me crazy.On a related note, I like how the current Conquest has Dedede apparently abandon his own team for one that happened to have both Diddy and ZSS on it.
"Tell them to shut up and have some faith in me." - dead flashback guy

Cruel Smash is a cruel joke. And Lucina needs projectiles.
I don't know how any of you can beat her challenge with just counters. I need edge-hogging, side throws and stupid luck that the Miis come one at a time just to get three knock-outs.
You gotta believe me when I scare you away, all that I wish for is that you would stay