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Hungryguy I am a Rad Reptile. from inside a cheese wheel Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#68176: Jan 19th 2015 at 6:15:46 AM

Bowser probably wouldn't appreciate someone bombing land he could potentially conquer.

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#68178: Jan 19th 2015 at 6:37:35 AM

Shame he doesn't put his mad wrestling skelz to the main Mario gamesm

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#68179: Jan 19th 2015 at 8:15:17 AM

[up] He'd much rather use axes, red buttons, and POW Blocks, pretty much asking Mario to defeat him.

To be fair, though, Mario doesn't really do anything too spectacular in his fights against Bowser, with the exception of Super Mario 64, in which he grabs Bowser's tail, picks him up, spins him around, and makes him hit a bomb (which is still a case of Boss-Arena Idiocy).

edited 19th Jan '15 8:17:15 AM by BurntMario

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#68180: Jan 19th 2015 at 8:31:16 AM

I don't really get why they decided to put Greninja as a bad guy. I mean, for one thing a Pokémon is pretty much just as good or evil as its owner, plus there's both a heroic and villainous Greninja in the anime.

So I guess they were just really desperate for another bad guy tongue

BlitzTrain Since: Apr, 2014
#68181: Jan 19th 2015 at 8:35:53 AM

I'm assuming they needed a filler, oh well. *puts on a villain hat*

Guess I'm a bad guy this week tongue

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#68182: Jan 19th 2015 at 8:37:20 AM

Well Mario can be considered a bad guy smile

Is this a Jo Jo reference?
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#68183: Jan 19th 2015 at 8:56:37 AM

Well he is "Evil" type in Japan.

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#68184: Jan 19th 2015 at 9:01:55 AM

Aren't most Dark types just misunderstood, though? It seems like Pokemon identified as Dark types aren't really evil as much as they are dirty.

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#68185: Jan 19th 2015 at 9:10:20 AM

I just find it baffling that they chose Greninja over Dedede or Bowser Jr.

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#68186: Jan 19th 2015 at 9:11:46 AM

Well, Dedede isn't evil, either; he's just an asshole.

Bowser Jr. is more of a comical villain than anything else.

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#68187: Jan 19th 2015 at 9:17:48 AM

Wario is included among the bad guys, you argument is invalid tongue

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#68188: Jan 19th 2015 at 9:32:02 AM

The only game I can think of where Wario is firmly established as the villain is his debut game, Super Mario Land 2: 6 Golden Coins. He seemed like a pretty legitimate threat, too, to the point where it's implied that he served as a Man Behind the Man to Tatanga from the first game. And I do believe that was before Wario became the main source of the Mario franchise's Toilet Humor and his Trademark Favorite Food was established as garlic.

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#68189: Jan 19th 2015 at 9:57:30 AM

So we know that Sonic, Mega Man, and Bowser won't approve of Viridi's methods. Can we assume that the Star Fox team wouldn't like a goddess killing humans?

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#68190: Jan 19th 2015 at 10:14:27 AM

To be fair, Dark-type is called "Evil-type" in Japan.

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#68191: Jan 19th 2015 at 11:01:23 AM

It's probably the reason or I guess they just went for pragmatism = bad.

And hey look, Greninja's Up-Smash can kill someone by sending them downwards.

BlitzTrain Since: Apr, 2014
#68192: Jan 19th 2015 at 11:07:36 AM

Either that or Greninja is more popular than Dedede and Junior? Or I'd like to think so, not that it matters because I've having fun with him.

By the way, how are your conquest contributions calculated anyway? streak of rounds played? Won? KO-streak? End-round point total? I haven't participated enough to figure it out.

edited 19th Jan '15 11:30:52 AM by BlitzTrain

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#68193: Jan 19th 2015 at 11:21:43 AM

[up][up]Looks more like he just forgot that he used his second jump already.

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#68194: Jan 19th 2015 at 11:48:37 AM

[up] More like he air dodged when he shouldn't have. To be fair though you can't really expect something like that to happen tongue

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#68195: Jan 19th 2015 at 12:01:57 PM

Since we're on the topic of Greninja...

What order would y'all rank the playable in the series?

I'd go with:

  • 1. Lucario
  • 2. Mewtwo
  • 3. Squirtle
  • 4. Charizard
  • 5. Pikachu
  • 6. Ivysaur
  • 7. Jigglypuff
  • 8. Greninja (I suck as him, lol)
  • 9. Pichu (why was he in Melee in the first place? IMO, they should've put Pit or Dedede in Melee)

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#68196: Jan 19th 2015 at 12:39:52 PM

My guesses for Gren being on the villains team this Conquest:

  • Dark type is called "Evil" type in Japan, something I'm kind of surprised they haven't changed by now.
  • A bit more reaching but the Diancie movie had a Greninja in a villainous role.

By the way, how are your conquest contributions calculated anyway? streak of rounds played? Won? KO-streak? End-round point total? I haven't participated enough to figure it out.
End-round point total.

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#68197: Jan 19th 2015 at 12:42:38 PM

Wait, there's gonna be a new Conquest?

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#68198: Jan 19th 2015 at 12:43:29 PM

[up][up]...That second point sounds pretty spot-on, considering how SSB usually treats the series.

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edited 19th Jan '15 12:43:50 PM by Demonfly

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#68199: Jan 19th 2015 at 12:45:43 PM

Maybe we're talking about different Conquests.

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#68200: Jan 19th 2015 at 12:48:04 PM

I was not aware of Greninja's role in the new movie, but if so then that makes some sense.

Greninja will probably stay good/neutral in my head-canon. But the entire species isn't going to share the same presonality/outlook/morals, plus there's the trainers to consider...

And thanks! That's just for the one round that alerts you to the match being part of Conquest, right? before the participation timer resets that is.


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