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Halberdier17 We Are With You Zack Snyder from Western Pennsylvania Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Dating Catwoman
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#68001: Jan 16th 2015 at 1:20:24 PM

[up]Is it the same on 3DS as it is on Wii U?

If it is I think you have to hit the credits while the space is flashing.

Batman Ninja more like Batman's Bizarre Adventure
Folt Warlock Necromancer from Hollow Bastion! >=D Since: Jun, 2010
Warlock Necromancer
#68002: Jan 16th 2015 at 1:31:45 PM

Thoron is a perfect edgeguard tool and for racking up damage on peeps. (Also, holding down the button gives more kill power but eh).

That said, with customs on, you get access to Thunder+ where Thoron gets really powerful.

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#68003: Jan 16th 2015 at 1:32:52 PM

Thoron+ with holding KO's really well in my experience. The holding adds a fair bit of power. But I think the real usefulness is in being able to hit several enemies at once.

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FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#68004: Jan 16th 2015 at 1:33:35 PM

Oh, I wasn't taking customs in consideration. I don't think I've unlocked any of Robin's customs yet.

mrsunshinesprinkles Forever Gorgeous from Somewhere, crying Since: Jan, 2012
Forever Gorgeous
#68005: Jan 16th 2015 at 1:43:48 PM

I see Air Speed, and Mario's at sixth.

This is both awesome and awesomely fitting.

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Dragon_Ranger Since: Jan, 2010
#68006: Jan 16th 2015 at 1:47:54 PM

Holding B apparently makes Thoron more powerful. I've never used it myself, since I always forget to do it.

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#68007: Jan 16th 2015 at 1:49:48 PM

In the credits game you have to make sure that you're hitting the credits into the empty spaces on the picture.

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Beaver Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#68008: Jan 16th 2015 at 2:07:28 PM

Falco can cancel landing lag.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spHWz-9F7cQ

Interesting to say the least.

Is this a Jo Jo reference?
Fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#68009: Jan 16th 2015 at 2:12:52 PM

Well now. That looks like it might be worth a tier or two.

FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
feeling blue
#68010: Jan 16th 2015 at 2:21:06 PM

Very hard to be precise with it in online though. Greninja can do something similar with his forward air, if you hit it at the very start of the move you have no lag upon landing and it can also combo into other moves.

Beaver Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#68011: Jan 16th 2015 at 2:21:31 PM

He also said that he's experimenting with other characters and Bowser Jr had similar results.

Is this a Jo Jo reference?
FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
feeling blue
#68012: Jan 16th 2015 at 2:24:03 PM

Greninja's slightly different in that the closest to the ground you hit, the less lag you'll have upon landing, so you don't need to hit at the exact moment like with Falco or Bowser Jr., it just gives you the most benefits if you do. Being able to cancel that ending lag makes Greninja's forward aerial a very good approach attack if you can get the timing right.

Nap1100 Since: Mar, 2012
#68013: Jan 16th 2015 at 2:28:37 PM

This is nothing new, it's called autocanceling. This is a mechanic that's been in Brawl with certain moves as well.

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#68014: Jan 16th 2015 at 2:33:22 PM

I don't think it's autocanceling exactly. Autocanceling means the move has little to not end lag when you land, an example being Greninja's neutral air. This is frame cancelling where it only happens if you hit at the initial frame of the move as you hit the ground, which is what happen with Falco in that video.

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#68015: Jan 16th 2015 at 5:21:32 PM

I have discovered that Bowser Bomb absolutely DESTROYS shields. Also useful for kills if your enemy tries, but fails, to chase you into the air. I'm also training myself to use it as an edge guarding tool.

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#68016: Jan 16th 2015 at 5:27:44 PM

Bowser Bomb is a no-no against Greninja though. It's pure Substitute bait.

Also that input lag was legendary.

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#68017: Jan 16th 2015 at 5:28:27 PM

I did good nonetheless.

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#68018: Jan 16th 2015 at 5:32:40 PM

... I'm going to count that as a loss.

Sorry, but I can't play with all this input lag.

Hungryguy I am a Rad Reptile. from inside a cheese wheel Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
I am a Rad Reptile.
#68019: Jan 16th 2015 at 5:34:04 PM

I didn't want to win like that, then I realized too late, I had one stock left. It was fun though.

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#68020: Jan 16th 2015 at 5:35:59 PM

I love how Substitute kills Bowser so easily and quickly.

That Substitute -> meteor down-air -> down-air combo was pretty nifty too.

Hungryguy I am a Rad Reptile. from inside a cheese wheel Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
I am a Rad Reptile.
#68021: Jan 16th 2015 at 5:37:58 PM

Why thank you. Unless you were talking about something you did. I honestly couldn't tell what was happening.

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#68022: Jan 16th 2015 at 5:40:21 PM

I was talking something I did, last time I looked Bowser couldn't use Substitute tongue

I didn't know if that could combo or not so it was an interesting discovery at least.

Greninja is a really bad match-up for Bowser, the ninja is way too hard for him to hit due to his mobility. Same applies to all heavyweights

edited 16th Jan '15 5:40:48 PM by FullMoon

Hungryguy I am a Rad Reptile. from inside a cheese wheel Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
I am a Rad Reptile.
#68023: Jan 16th 2015 at 5:48:07 PM

Bowser can totally use Substitute. Look at Mario Sunshine! Also that other fake Bowser from a Paper Mario game. But I shall now and forever be stricken with fear whenever I see a frog disappear.

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FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#68024: Jan 16th 2015 at 5:51:43 PM

Shadow Sneak is not that bad tongue

Hungryguy I am a Rad Reptile. from inside a cheese wheel Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
I am a Rad Reptile.
#68025: Jan 16th 2015 at 6:06:18 PM

When are we set to get that Miiverse stage?

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