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Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#67976: Jan 16th 2015 at 6:24:47 AM

Third party characters are quite harder to deal with than something you own...

And I bet the moveset will be a retouched Melee one, rather than a new one, because creating a brand new character may be a bit too much now.

strawberryflavored Since: Sep, 2010
#67977: Jan 16th 2015 at 6:59:27 AM

Since Mewtwo's FS is pretty much guaranteed to be Mega Mewtwo Y, I wonder what it's going to do. I hope it's not like Mega Lucario though.

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#67978: Jan 16th 2015 at 7:26:38 AM

I for one am hoping for Psystrike rather than a mega. Sphere of Destruction and call it a day.

Fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#67979: Jan 16th 2015 at 7:29:47 AM

Sign me up for aloof Melee!Mewtwo so long as it gets enough power to justify that attitude. tongue

Keybreak (Long Runner)
#67980: Jan 16th 2015 at 8:15:01 AM

So I really believe now that opponents inflict more damage the longer you play an All-Star. It gets maddening...

You gotta believe me when I scare you away, all that I wish for is that you would stay
Folt Warlock Necromancer from Hollow Bastion! >=D Since: Jun, 2010
Warlock Necromancer
#67981: Jan 16th 2015 at 8:16:14 AM

All-Star what? The events or the mode?

edited 16th Jan '15 8:16:25 AM by Folt

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strawberryflavored Since: Sep, 2010
#67982: Jan 16th 2015 at 8:16:33 AM

I could believe that. When I did the no healing item Captain Falcon challenge, it got a lot harder to keep the amount of damage taken minimal.

Keybreak (Long Runner)
#67983: Jan 16th 2015 at 8:26:45 AM

The mode.

Fortunately Ganondorf is great to play in All-Star mode. ;p He's got so many powerful smash attacks that I didn't even have to use all the healing items on hard.

The easier characters to use seem to be the ones with very direct smashes, because your opponents will just keep coming at you unless you really get at them.

You gotta believe me when I scare you away, all that I wish for is that you would stay
Hungryguy I am a Rad Reptile. from inside a cheese wheel Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
I am a Rad Reptile.
#67984: Jan 16th 2015 at 8:38:02 AM

Reverse Falcon punch is always a one hit K.O. on easy All-Star.

edited 16th Jan '15 8:38:16 AM by Hungryguy

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FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
feeling blue
#67985: Jan 16th 2015 at 8:56:14 AM

Spam shurikens, win All-Star.

BlitzTrain Since: Apr, 2014
#67986: Jan 16th 2015 at 10:00:04 AM

So, little brother gets up and decides to start playing Brawl today. It's a little weird hearing the latin singing of the into after I've been used to Smash 3DS for a while now!

Also he's playing through the abandoned playground levels of Subspace Emissary, so now I've got Lucas feels (his cutscenes made me want to give him a hug before I knew Mother 3 was a thing)... Run, boy, run! Don't let the giant Porky statue catch you!

Trip Since: Mar, 2012
Ninety Absolutely no relation to NLK from Land of Quakes and Hills Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
Absolutely no relation to NLK
#67988: Jan 16th 2015 at 10:04:11 AM

Hey, is there anywhere I can look for Smash 4 stats? Like, which is the strongest move, which has the most knockback, who's the heaviest character, what's the strongest projectile?

Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.
Hungryguy I am a Rad Reptile. from inside a cheese wheel Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
I am a Rad Reptile.
#67989: Jan 16th 2015 at 11:11:25 AM

There is a Smash Bros. Guide available at Game Stop, Walmart, and possibly any other store that sells Smash. It lists every single attack and the range of damage it can do. It also says how many hits the move is capable of connecting with. For example it says Greninja's Water Shuriken hits up to a maximum of six times.

edited 16th Jan '15 11:17:50 AM by Hungryguy

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FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
feeling blue
#67990: Jan 16th 2015 at 11:56:05 AM

Six? I thought it was five, would be accurate to it's origins, oh well.

Anyway I'm pretty sure the strongest move without including customs is Warlock Punch and the strongest projectile is likely Samus or Megaman's Charge Shot. Heaviest character is Bowser.

Folt Warlock Necromancer from Hollow Bastion! >=D Since: Jun, 2010
Warlock Necromancer
#67991: Jan 16th 2015 at 11:57:21 AM

Fastest walkers are Marth and Lucina.

Fantastic Supreme Überkaiser Emperor Folt of The Infinity and Beyond" ... "The First"!
Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#67992: Jan 16th 2015 at 12:00:50 PM

The fastest runners, in order, are Sonic, then Captain Falcon, then Little Mac, then poor Fox, who got ousted from third place. As in Brawl, Sonic is the fastest by a pretty wide margin.

I sure said that!
FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
feeling blue
#67993: Jan 16th 2015 at 12:10:05 PM

Characters by weight

Characters by falling speed

Characters by running/walking speed

It's worth noting that overall, Greninja has the best mobility out of all characters. Having the 3rd highest falling speed, 4th highest fast fall speed, 6th highest running speed and 4th highest walking speed. Being slightly above Sheik in all categories.

EDIT: Oh wait, that would be Fox actually.

edited 16th Jan '15 12:12:54 PM by FullMoon

Fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#67994: Jan 16th 2015 at 12:30:00 PM

Ah, but you're neglecting horizontal air movement. Fox is terrible in that respect. Although, Greninja's isn't that much better, I think?

Folt Warlock Necromancer from Hollow Bastion! >=D Since: Jun, 2010
Warlock Necromancer
#67995: Jan 16th 2015 at 12:39:00 PM

Hey look: Air Speed Rankings

Jigglypuff and Yoshi tie for fastest air speed, Wario comes in third, followed by Zero Suit Samus and Greninja. After the top 5 comes Mario at 6th place.

King Dedede has the slowest air speed, followed by Luigi, then Ganondorf. After that comes Kirby, then Olimar.

edited 16th Jan '15 12:39:24 PM by Folt

Fantastic Supreme Überkaiser Emperor Folt of The Infinity and Beyond" ... "The First"!
FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
feeling blue
#67996: Jan 16th 2015 at 12:43:41 PM

All right so Greninja does have the overall best mobility. Being fast both walking and running while also falling fast and moving fast in the air, something few can do as well as him. Greninja also has the second highest jump height losing only to Falco

Maybe that's why he works so well for me tongue

Fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#67997: Jan 16th 2015 at 1:01:56 PM

Welp, goes to show how often I play the frog, I guess...

And Yoshi being tied with Jiggles explains a lot and is part of why I like playing him so much. I'm always jumping around. Can't stand playing characters with low sideways movement in mid-air. I'm cool with middling speed in my characters, but I need to be able to flyyyyy!

... and now I'm really surprised by how low Pikachu ranks. Huh.

edited 16th Jan '15 1:04:56 PM by Fawriel

Ninety Absolutely no relation to NLK from Land of Quakes and Hills Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
Absolutely no relation to NLK
#67998: Jan 16th 2015 at 1:15:09 PM

Why is it that when you're doing the post-Classic credits breaking, sometimes it stops registering the percentage at all? (Also, thanks. I would've banked on Thoron for strongest projectile.)

Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.
Trip Since: Mar, 2012
#67999: Jan 16th 2015 at 1:19:37 PM

thoron's weaka as shit tho

or am i just dumb and missing something

FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
feeling blue
#68000: Jan 16th 2015 at 1:20:13 PM

Thoron can't kill Mario at 100% from the center of Final Destination, Samus's Charge Shot certainly can.


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