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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#67376: Jan 6th 2015 at 3:56:53 PM

That's gonna take a while due to how defensive Cpu are, especially against eachother.

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Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#67377: Jan 6th 2015 at 3:58:12 PM

I know, that's why I'm looking at the computer screen instead of the 3DS.

The legend has returned.
FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
feeling blue
#67378: Jan 6th 2015 at 4:02:44 PM

I forgot DK was one of the original 8, whoops. Second heaviest then.

Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#67379: Jan 6th 2015 at 4:17:50 PM

It took almost 20 minutes. Wow.

The legend has returned.
Durazno Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#67380: Jan 6th 2015 at 6:38:37 PM

I am kind of annoyed at how in Smash Tour the cpu players will first swirl around you like Hollywood piranhas, then, if they manage to knock you out, start doofing around harmlessly for the rest of the match.

Customer Since: Sep, 2009
#67381: Jan 6th 2015 at 6:43:17 PM

Personal favorite Smash Games ranking:

  • 3DS
    • Wii U (Haven't played it, but even if I did, I like the 3DS version too much to care. Yes, I'm that certain about this decision)
  • Melee/Brawl (depends on what I want to play, though I haven't played either in years)
  • 64 (Still a good game, but I prefer the larger rosters in the newer games. No Peach makes me sad)

Folt Warlock Necromancer from Hollow Bastion! >=D Since: Jun, 2010
Warlock Necromancer
#67382: Jan 6th 2015 at 6:43:49 PM

My Ranking:

1. 3DS: Only Smash to date where I can truly personalize my game and experience. It also has Smash Run and a much better Classic Mode... and the least bullshit challenges. I also care about way more about the original stages for this version.
2. Wii U: This has more content than the 3DS version, but oh my God: Classic Mode is worse (rectified somewhat by Crazy Orders, but it can't replace it), Events are pretty hit-or-miss to the point where I alternate between wishing they were for the 3DS and being glad that they're not, and most of the Wii U exclusive stuff (like the music and stages) is also pretty hit-or-miss compared to how the 3DS version got a good deal of the good stuff, and while Smash Tour is alright, Smash Run is better by far. 8-Player Smash can be very chaotic which is both a plus and a minus, as I sometimes lose sight of my character and accidentally suicide in an otherwise fun match. The challenges are also very very bullshit compared to Brawl and 3DS. Overall, despite the Wii U version having more content, adding everything it has together ultimately only gives it some advantages over its portable brother in exchange for some disadvantages, and some of the modes can feel like a slog to play sometimes.
3. Brawl: I liked the Subspace Emissary mode, actually. The Events are also not as hit-or-miss as it's predecessor and successor. I liked the Classic Mode in this one better than Melee's, though 3DS's Classic Mode is better. Target Test is worse than Melee's (but due to the way it's set up, no character really feels left out in terms of testing their skill) and the game can feel like a slog to play through sometimes, but it is overall an improvement over the previous two.
4. Melee: Melee has the advantage in having trophies, All-Star Mode, and more characters & stages, but Events which made their debut in this game is very hit-or-miss compared to the games that came after and they are a big deal of the reason as to why I think this game is more of a slog to play compared to the rest, and some of the Target Test stages are kinda garbage compared to 64's. Classic is worse than Brawl's and 3DS's but not as bad as Wii U's Classic Mode and I would probably have liked Adventure Mode better if I could battle Master Hand in it (though I like it better than Classic). I also don't like the physics of this compared to the rest of the games.
5. N64: I liked it's 1P Mode as well as Board the Platforms (and it had the better Small Fry Enemy Team), and I like the physics better than Melee's super-fast ones... but Melee and the rest ultimately trumps this game.

edited 6th Jan '15 6:45:47 PM by Folt

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#67383: Jan 6th 2015 at 6:44:11 PM

I think that CPU's were programmed to fight humans, not other CPU's. I don't know how they distinguish though.

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FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Customer Since: Sep, 2009
#67385: Jan 6th 2015 at 7:03:26 PM

...Now I want to hear what Greninja's Japanese voice sounds like.

FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
feeling blue
#67386: Jan 6th 2015 at 7:07:54 PM

I believe it's the same guy who voices Strider.

Customer Since: Sep, 2009
#67387: Jan 6th 2015 at 7:09:21 PM

If that's true that is astonishingly appropriate.

Demonfly birdie fairy Since: Jul, 2012
birdie fairy
#67388: Jan 6th 2015 at 7:12:27 PM

I always found Brawl's Event Matches to be exponentially duller than Melee's, which could at the very least be described as memorable (rip forever Trophy Tussle matches).

Then there's 4's, which I've heard basically nothing good about.

edited 6th Jan '15 7:16:07 PM by Demonfly

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FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
feeling blue
#67389: Jan 6th 2015 at 7:18:20 PM

[up][up] Yep

I like the Event Matches in 4

Yomegami Since: Jan, 2011
#67390: Jan 6th 2015 at 7:22:32 PM

4 did have some horrible events (I have a particular dislike for "Kirby's Crazy Appetite," and it seems a lot of people agree with me on that one), but in general I found them pretty enjoyable.

In particular I liked the "Final FINAL Battle," though that might just have been because Master Hand's theme was blaring in the background and I freaking love that song.

edited 6th Jan '15 7:22:51 PM by Yomegami

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strawberryflavored Since: Sep, 2010
#67391: Jan 6th 2015 at 7:23:13 PM

[up][up]Really? I've heard nothing about them.

Though, I generally like them. Now, if only I could find someone to do the Co-Op events with...

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#67392: Jan 6th 2015 at 7:27:08 PM

Brawl's events are just so much simpler and really less interesting because they don't put much use of gimmicks to change them up from basically being normal matches. They're also very easy in comparison to the other games.

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Folt Warlock Necromancer from Hollow Bastion! >=D Since: Jun, 2010
Warlock Necromancer
#67393: Jan 6th 2015 at 7:34:54 PM

Trophy Tussle not appearing again is sad, but all I remember of Melee's Event Matches is that, the All-Star Matches (which I think the others did better anyways), the final two Event Matches (Vs. the Hands & Vs. the Villains), and how horribly cruel to beat and how much bullshit most of them became after you got the initial ones down.

Brawl allowed me to choose how cruel I could make it for myself which is good. It also standardized the 1P Event final battles (the normal Final Battle pit you up against the heavyweight villains while the secret Final Battle pit you up against the company mascots) and the Co-Op Event Final Battles (normal Final Battle is an All-Star match vs. the playable antagonists and the secret Final Battle pit you up against the entire playable roster). It also standardized the All-Star ones, and the last Co-Op Event is immensely satisfying to try (and has some parallels to the secret final event in Melee in terms of the music used).

Wii U Events allow you to choose the difficulty like in Brawl, but a good deal of the new Events are as difficult and as bullshit as most of Melee's Events anyway (and in fact, they reminded me exactly of how bullshit Melee's eventually became), especially if you want the reward for fullfilling the requirements. However, once again the last Co-Op Event is immensely satisfying to try and beat.

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BloatedCreeper The One and Many from Area N Since: Jan, 2013 Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
The One and Many
#67394: Jan 6th 2015 at 7:51:02 PM

I prefer the Wii U version to the 3DS version mostly due to control options. The circle pad just doesn't cut it. I could care less about classic mode being weird or not, and the Crazy Orders are pretty fun. Never liked Smash Run, too many things just pummeling you at once and the winner is almost always decided with RNG. Smash Tour is far worse though.

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FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
feeling blue
#67395: Jan 6th 2015 at 8:17:24 PM

Experience of the day: Went against another Greninja player who has gotten in second place in a small tournament and did well in pretty much all others.

We were surprisingly even matched. Though my lack of sleep reared it's head and I started playing really sloppy in some matches, resulting in me getting 3 stocked.

I'm a lot more confident about myself now.

Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Cat Knows Where It's At
#67396: Jan 6th 2015 at 8:20:37 PM

[up] At least until your next losing streak, at any rate.

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BlitzTrain Since: Apr, 2014
#67397: Jan 6th 2015 at 8:30:13 PM

And then the next confidence boosting experience comes, and the cycle repeats until eventually Moon's Greninja takes over the world and forces us to live in underwater huts in the swamp. wins a tournament.

edited 6th Jan '15 8:30:40 PM by BlitzTrain

FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
feeling blue
#67398: Jan 6th 2015 at 8:34:21 PM

[up][up] I'm already in a losing streak. I'm not really letting it bother me anymore, especially after this.

[up] Implying I'll get the opportunity to go to a tournament tongue

edited 6th Jan '15 8:35:20 PM by FullMoon

Nap1100 Since: Mar, 2012
#67399: Jan 6th 2015 at 8:45:29 PM

Shouldn't be that hard to find one. Smash competitive community is huge like that.

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