He's a Mario character, though.
And since Donkey Kong Country and the Mario series overlap so much, I'm prety sure you could count Diddy as an ally of Mario too.
edited 3rd Jan '15 12:21:23 PM by WackyPancake
"I like girls, but now, it's about justice."Smash Bros. treats Wario Ware, Yoshi's Island, and DKC as separate game universes from Mario
Even still, the fact Sonic is higher tier than pretty much all of Nintendo's big three franchises' main characters is amusing to me, MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
AAAAUUUUGGGHHHH!!!!As someone who consistently plays as Samus, it hurt to see her that low. Is she at least measurably better than she was in Brawl?
What is a fandom? A miserable little pile of flame wars! 3DS FC: 0387-9377-7408 PSN ID: Raven King SageIf we're going by tier lists, sadly no. In the Brawl tier list she's 32 out of 38, pretty close to her position on the Smash Ladder tier list.
Keep in mind that usage factored a lot in that tier list, though. Perhaps people are just not using her enough.
"I like girls, but now, it's about justice."I'm not going to by tier lists, necessarily. Keep in mind that 4 is more balanced than Brawl - a good enough Palutena could go toe to toe with the higher tier characters, while in Brawl, low tier characters were boned against Meta Knight/Falco/Snake/Diddy by default.
What is a fandom? A miserable little pile of flame wars! 3DS FC: 0387-9377-7408 PSN ID: Raven King SageI don't really like tier lists anyway, a terrible Diddy could lose against a great Dr.Mario
And also my main is tied with Rosalina
edited 3rd Jan '15 1:04:13 PM by Beaver
Is this a Jo Jo reference?The thing about the tier lists is that they apply primarily to the high levels of competitive play. To the average Joe, they're largely meaningless with some exceptions.
Alternatively, Tiers R 4 Queers.
edited 3rd Jan '15 1:07:30 PM by Zelenal
Let the joy of love give you an answer! Check out my book!That's pretty much true for any tier list, to be honest. Unless the game is horribly unbalanced, characters on any place in the list can go toe-to-toe, especially when you're not dealing with the higher levels of play I don't get involved in.
Curiously, my hydrology classes in university have made me less repulsed by tier lists. Tier lists are pretty much "informed guesswork" when it comes down to it, which hydrology uses and abuses a lot.
edited 3rd Jan '15 1:08:39 PM by Elbruno
"Yeah, it's a shame. Here we are in an underground cave with all these lasers, and instead of having a rave we're using it for evil."Basically, all I want to know is whether or not Samus is generally more usable this time around. I really want to have fun playing as her in Brawl, but she's just so bad that I just can't do it. Brawl is general becomes less comfortable for me to play the more time goes on. I'm not all that concerned with her tier list placement - if she's satisfying to play as and at least more usable than she was in Brawl, that's good enough for me.
edited 3rd Jan '15 1:54:22 PM by RavenKingSage
What is a fandom? A miserable little pile of flame wars! 3DS FC: 0387-9377-7408 PSN ID: Raven King SageHuh. So Captain Falcon actually beats out Mac for second best runner. Could'a sworn the Captain was slower.
Souleye - PPPPPP - Potential for Anything 3DS FC: 2621-3105-8671It did seem like it.
Though just testing it out...he's noticeably slower.
edited 3rd Jan '15 2:16:30 PM by randomness4
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Moon, I don't count Yoshi as Smash treats him as from a separate franchise than Mario.
AAAAUUUUGGGHHHH!!!!