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WackyPancake from My computer. Since: May, 2011
#67101: Jan 3rd 2015 at 8:21:48 AM

[1]

Honestly though, if you know you should talk to someone about this (and you should, because although I'm not a psychologist I know this is probably unhealthy), why the hell don't you?

Or at the very least go scream into your pillow or something. What we don't want is you coming into threads, blowing up, and disrupting peaceful discussion just because Nintendo is overlooking Panel de Pon. We don't want that. Stop that.

edited 3rd Jan '15 8:22:28 AM by WackyPancake

"I like girls, but now, it's about justice."
paperbritt Since: Apr, 2013
#67102: Jan 3rd 2015 at 8:22:02 AM

ROY. Using Smash as an advertisement platform is nothing new. Hell, if it were only an advertising gimmick, Pokemon would make up half the cast and franchises like Xenoblade and Fire Emblem and the retro reps would never have gotten in in the first place.

I get your frustration over your series not getting the Smash Bros "boost", but this is not the way to react to it.

Midna Blorbonmyoji (he/she/they) from way down south in the land of the traitors (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Blorbonmyoji (he/she/they)
#67103: Jan 3rd 2015 at 8:22:42 AM

Honestly the fact that Panel de Pon got an item in Smash Bros and I believe a song in Brawl (not sure if it's still in Smash 4) seems to be a clear indicator that Nintendo hasn't completely forgotten about the franchise. Sure, the trophy for the Lip Stick is wrong about the game it's part of, but it's not like the trophy list hasn't been wrong before.

The song is still in Brawl.

One of the main reasons I'm cheesed off is because they got its origins right twice before. Both Melee and Brawl had it listed as being from "Panel de Pon - Japan Only". Why "fix" that now?

[up][up] Well hell, at least you guys listen to me. If I had posted this whole rant in the Panel de Pon thread, it would have fallen on deaf ears. That place is a ghost town despite my best efforts to keep it alive.

edited 3rd Jan '15 8:24:58 AM by Midna

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Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#67104: Jan 3rd 2015 at 8:23:21 AM

I am glad they brought back Roy in Smash 4, though.

But man, they sure went in a weird direction with him.

I sure said that!
WackyPancake from My computer. Since: May, 2011
#67105: Jan 3rd 2015 at 8:24:18 AM

I'm still iffy about that redesign.

[up][up] Yes, but we don't want to. Everybody appreciates discussion, and we are all willing to listen to you most of the time, it's not like we don't appreciate you. But when you act like this the only thing you're doing is causing trouble. Please, if you ever feel yourself getting unreasonably angry like right now, consider walking away from the computer and going outside before going on yet another violent forum rant.

edited 3rd Jan '15 8:27:04 AM by WackyPancake

"I like girls, but now, it's about justice."
FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
feeling blue
#67106: Jan 3rd 2015 at 8:28:32 AM

I can't say for sure why they decided to change it. I'm guessing they only wanted to mention Japan-only games if the game never really got released in the west, such as Mother 3. While Panel de Pon and Tetris Attack are very different, the latter is techinically the western release of the former.

Sterok Since: Apr, 2012
#67107: Jan 3rd 2015 at 8:28:46 AM

No one cares about Panel de Pon, ever cared about it, or will ever care about it unless it gets a revival no one is qsking for. The existence of a few fans does not change the fact that the series never had a fanbase for various reasons. Fair? Maybe not, but that's life.

Midna Blorbonmyoji (he/she/they) from way down south in the land of the traitors (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Blorbonmyoji (he/she/they)
#67108: Jan 3rd 2015 at 8:29:01 AM

Okay, but like I said, every other post in the Panel de Pon thread is from me. It's a ghost town. If I post my ranting in there, no one is going to read it because they don't know what the hell I'm talking about.

I'll stop talking about it, though, if you're that pissed about it.

[up] I'll stop talking about it, though, if you're that pissed about it.

edited 3rd Jan '15 8:30:27 AM by Midna

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paperbritt Since: Apr, 2013
#67109: Jan 3rd 2015 at 8:42:28 AM

The only Smash memes I like are "Alfonzo" and "Roy's back!" for whatever reason.

fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#67110: Jan 3rd 2015 at 8:48:24 AM

I'm honestly more worried about your health than any "trouble" you might be causing, buddy. I know what anger management issues are like, and... you know, I'm just saying. You should take a step back and think about whether the frustration is worth the joy you're getting from placing such importance on a game series.

(I'd offer to talk to you via PM, but I wouldn't be able to respond very regularly for a while. If that's okay, feel free to rant at me all you want.)

Midna Blorbonmyoji (he/she/they) from way down south in the land of the traitors (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Blorbonmyoji (he/she/they)
#67111: Jan 3rd 2015 at 8:50:00 AM

I just wish I could take it all back. I wish I had never come in here all those times to blow up about people not knowing about the game. I wish I wouldn't be so argumentative about it. Hell, sometimes I wish I'd never found out about or fallen in love with the franchise to begin with just so I wouldn't annoy you guys.

I know I can never ask for your forgiveness, because the last time I said I was sorry, I eventually came back and this happened. I don't know what to do anymore, about PDP or about all the drama I've caused and continue to cause.

[up]It would have to be via email because PMs are turned off for me.

edited 3rd Jan '15 8:51:33 AM by Midna

pearlina brainrot affects millions of people worldwide. if you or a loved one are suffering from pearlina brainrot, call 1-800-GAY-NERDS
FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
feeling blue
#67112: Jan 3rd 2015 at 9:09:49 AM

On a completely different note, the Smash Ladder has made a tier list based on the data of the results of the matches done there so we can see how characters have been doing on such a large competitive ladder.

BlitzTrain Since: Apr, 2014
#67113: Jan 3rd 2015 at 9:13:04 AM

Huh, Lucario and Pikachu are higher than I thought they'd be on there.

And Greninja is lower than both of them, guess you've got some more work to do Moon :p

edited 3rd Jan '15 9:14:35 AM by BlitzTrain

WackyPancake from My computer. Since: May, 2011
#67114: Jan 3rd 2015 at 9:16:47 AM

I'd be willing to bet Olimar is just so low because people barely use him. I refuse to believe he's that bad in this game.

On the other hand, I approve of Luigi's placement.

edited 3rd Jan '15 9:18:06 AM by WackyPancake

"I like girls, but now, it's about justice."
fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#67115: Jan 3rd 2015 at 9:20:08 AM

I'm gonna guess that that is not representative past the very top.

... and Diddy being at the top continues to be the worst thing.

I just wish I could take it all back. I wish I had never come in here all those times to blow up about people not knowing about the game. I wish I wouldn't be so argumentative about it. Hell, sometimes I wish I'd never found out about or fallen in love with the franchise to begin with just so I wouldn't annoy you guys.

I know I can never ask for your forgiveness, because the last time I said I was sorry, I eventually came back and this happened. I don't know what to do anymore, about PDP or about all the drama I've caused and continue to cause.

[up]It would have to be via email because P Ms are turned off for me.

Shhhhh, it's okay... calm down. It's okay.

Man, why are your PMs turned off, though? Ah well. If you'd like to e-mail me, I've got the same name on gmail.

Midna Blorbonmyoji (he/she/they) from way down south in the land of the traitors (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Blorbonmyoji (he/she/they)
#67116: Jan 3rd 2015 at 9:22:51 AM

I got PM banned because when I was still in We Are Our Avatars, I was abusing them to harrass people to play characters I liked more.

Thanks for helping me with this, by the way. You're a real sweetie ^^

edited 3rd Jan '15 9:24:32 AM by Midna

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Enderspy (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: In bed with a green-skinned space babe
#67117: Jan 3rd 2015 at 9:23:33 AM

What I don't get is why Swordfighter is at the bottom. Aside from the Jolt Haymaker clone, all of their moves seem reasonably useful.

FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
feeling blue
#67118: Jan 3rd 2015 at 9:24:52 AM

I've played against Olimars in the ladder and they always give me a lot of trouble. But other than a few characters that haven't been seeing much use, I think the list is pretty accurate.

Greninja is just barely out of the Top 15, so I'm pleased.

WackyPancake from My computer. Since: May, 2011
#67119: Jan 3rd 2015 at 9:25:11 AM

Swordfighter is pretty much agreed to be the worst character.

"I like girls, but now, it's about justice."
fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#67120: Jan 3rd 2015 at 9:26:28 AM

I can see that, really. They're strangely slow for no evident reason.

Folt Warlock Necromancer from Hollow Bastion! >=D Since: Jun, 2010
Warlock Necromancer
#67121: Jan 3rd 2015 at 9:33:33 AM

Luigi and Robin's placements pleases me.

Fantastic Supreme Überkaiser Emperor Folt of The Infinity and Beyond" ... "The First"!
Sterok Since: Apr, 2012
#67122: Jan 3rd 2015 at 9:34:28 AM

Why did Rosalina drop so much? I know she was nerfed, but not that badly.

FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
feeling blue
#67123: Jan 3rd 2015 at 9:38:56 AM

Because as the meta evolves, people start seeing the potential of other characters. Until some time ago Luigi was considered bottom tier and now look how well he's doing, it's just that people are seeing the potential of other characters and so Rosalina started to fall.

Greninja went through the same thing, before he was already around Top 5, but even though his nerfs weren't as severe as people made it out to be, he fell all the way to 16th.

Zarek Rollin' rollin' rollin' from Jakku Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Rollin' rollin' rollin'
#67124: Jan 3rd 2015 at 9:46:02 AM

Wow, surprised to see the Doc is so low. Wasn't he a lot better than Mario back in Melee?

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Folt Warlock Necromancer from Hollow Bastion! >=D Since: Jun, 2010
Warlock Necromancer
#67125: Jan 3rd 2015 at 9:46:07 AM

Well, good Luigis tend to do very well once they get the momentum they need (i.e. when Luigi gets the opponent in his attack range and gets a hit or two in).

[up] For this game, he's generally slower all around and his recovery is pretty bad.

That said, I do not think he's as bad as shown on this tier list.

edited 3rd Jan '15 9:47:15 AM by Folt

Fantastic Supreme Überkaiser Emperor Folt of The Infinity and Beyond" ... "The First"!

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