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Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#66201: Dec 17th 2014 at 6:34:14 PM

@Pulse: What is "clack"?
Because of the motions used for wavedashing, which was an exploit born from an unintentional effect of the sliding motion made from directing an air dodge into the ground, the controller ends up making a lot of clacking sounds from the analog shoulder buttons being pressed and the control stick being flicked to the left or right very quickly and in rapid succession. Perfect pivoting, on the other hand, has such a simple input method that it probably was meant to be included as-is.

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Elbruno Mummy Woomy from Chile: Not As Dry As Space! Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Mummy Woomy
#66202: Dec 17th 2014 at 6:38:11 PM

Does anyone know if it's possible to counter Greninja's counter? I imagine you might be able to if someone else triggers Substitute and you happen to be in the path too, but I mean if you triggered it.

I'm pretty sure I once Shulk'd my brother's Greninja like that once. I mean, there's a bit of delay between the dissapearing and the countering, so it should not be impossible to pull off after a quick attack.

edited 17th Dec '14 6:38:33 PM by Elbruno

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Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#66203: Dec 17th 2014 at 6:39:24 PM

Shulk's Vision, provided it hasn't been used for a long time, has a very forgiving timing to it.

... Now I want to see two Greninja, countering each other forever. So many fuzzy dolls...

edited 17th Dec '14 6:40:02 PM by Pulse

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Elbruno Mummy Woomy from Chile: Not As Dry As Space! Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Mummy Woomy
#66204: Dec 17th 2014 at 6:43:43 PM

"This is the Monado's power" indeed. It does become very strict after just a few misfires though. Gotta keep that Party Gauge full, mate.

That reminds me, that fluzzy doll is the HDest thing ever.

edited 17th Dec '14 6:44:57 PM by Elbruno

"Yeah, it's a shame. Here we are in an underground cave with all these lasers, and instead of having a rave we're using it for evil."
Customer Since: Sep, 2009
#66205: Dec 17th 2014 at 6:44:16 PM

My Circle pad has only just now had the rubber part slightly peeling off.
Only the rubber on my has come off (I can still reapply it though; I had a mini-freak out when it first happened in the middle of a match with someone here because I had initially thought that the Circle part of the Pad came off), but seeing other people post pictures of their destroyed Circle Pads has made me paranoid.

Perfect pivoting looks to be pretty nifty, in that it seems to be based mostly on the actual native controls instead of Melee's wavedashing, which was basically all clack.
Pretty much. And this isn't really the equivalent of Melee's wavedashing (this method's been in every Smash title as well, it's just that wavedashing in Melee is a far better option than perfect pivoting all the time), but it's about as close to wavedashing as the later games can get I believe.note 

EDIT: Wait, Shulk's Vision counter is affected by multiple uses?

edited 17th Dec '14 6:48:59 PM by Customer

BlitzTrain Since: Apr, 2014
#66206: Dec 17th 2014 at 6:46:39 PM

I've heard there's enough of a delay that people can shield with good timing, I just wasn't sure how fast you could use a counter compared to the shield. And it makes sense there's a delay, otherwise it's pretty hard to the Greninja player to have time to pick a direction!

... Now I want to see two Greninja, countering each other forever. So many fuzzy dolls...

Don't forget the ninja logs! But that sounds like something that needs to be filmed now. Probably need two human player to do it, I'd offer a 3DS Greninja for the project, but I have no idea how someone would record such an event =D

That reminds me, that fluzzy doll is the H Dest thing ever.

Not sure what you mean by that, going to assume it's a good thing :p

edited 17th Dec '14 6:49:42 PM by BlitzTrain

Elbruno Mummy Woomy from Chile: Not As Dry As Space! Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Mummy Woomy
#66207: Dec 17th 2014 at 6:52:57 PM

[up][up]Yup. It's the most forgiving counter in the game at first, which makes sense for the guy that can see the future, but the margin of error becomes progressively stricter when you abuse the attack.

[up]It means that it feels like you can almost pet the little critter through the screen.

"Yeah, it's a shame. Here we are in an underground cave with all these lasers, and instead of having a rave we're using it for evil."
Customer Since: Sep, 2009
#66208: Dec 17th 2014 at 6:53:08 PM

[up][up]I think he means that it's ridiculously detailed for what it is. tongue

Hey guys, remember the reaction to Mega Man's Final Smash during the Smash Invitational?

Well, here it is from the crowd's perspective.

It's the first time I've seen this video. Most of the other ones are from the Invitational's stream itself.

edited 17th Dec '14 6:54:41 PM by Customer

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Hey there! Having fun?
#66209: Dec 17th 2014 at 7:05:13 PM

EDIT:By the way, are there any unlockables in Flash 2?

Not yet, but there will be. It's still in open beta right now.

edited 17th Dec '14 7:06:08 PM by BaffleBlend

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#66210: Dec 17th 2014 at 7:08:21 PM

Only the rubber on my has come off (I can still reapply it though; I had a mini-freak out when it first happened in the middle of a match with someone here because I had initially thought that the Circle part of the Pad came off), but seeing other people post pictures of their destroyed Circle Pads has made me paranoid.

Aka me tongue

And I'm fairly sure that if a second Substitute is used, the previous doll/log is going to disappear. No rain of plushies, unfortunately.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#66211: Dec 17th 2014 at 7:15:11 PM

You can activate Shulk's counter faster than it normally goes...I don't think it does as much damage though.

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Elbruno Mummy Woomy from Chile: Not As Dry As Space! Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Mummy Woomy
#66212: Dec 17th 2014 at 7:17:56 PM

It's not quite like that. Pressing the direction the attack's coming from before the counter activates makes Shulk dash forward, cutting through opponents and sending them flying backwards. It's incredibly satisfying to pull off on an edgeguarding enemy.

"Yeah, it's a shame. Here we are in an underground cave with all these lasers, and instead of having a rave we're using it for evil."
Keybreak (Long Runner)
#66213: Dec 17th 2014 at 7:38:42 PM

Can you use a 3DS in any mode besides regular Smash?

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#66214: Dec 17th 2014 at 8:06:39 PM

Hey guys I uploaded something. It's glitchy.

http://thekoopabrawler.deviantart.com/art/Do-Not-Want-500922120?ga_submit_new=10%253A1418875435

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BlitzTrain Since: Apr, 2014
#66215: Dec 17th 2014 at 8:15:20 PM

Awww, that means we can't recreate this...

Good to know about Shulk's counter though, I'll remember that if I try to learn him. He was fun to clear Classic with, even if I didn't know how to use any of his monado arts. Vanilla Shulk still got 9.0 though.

Can you use a 3DS in any mode besides regular Smash?

You mean online? With the Wii-U? I know you can do Smash Run, All-Star and Multi-man brawl with other 3DSs on local wireless if you have RL friends with the game. But I don't have those, getting my "X-Hours of Smash" challenges might be annoying because of that.

edited 17th Dec '14 8:15:58 PM by BlitzTrain

edvedd Darling. from At the boutique, dear. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Darling.
#66216: Dec 17th 2014 at 8:18:09 PM

My top 5? Zero Suit Samus is on top, but I feel pretty good about Peach, Greninja, and Kirby, in no real order.

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Keybreak (Long Runner)
#66217: Dec 17th 2014 at 8:18:49 PM

I mean as a controller on Wii U. Never mind the online.

It doesn't look like you can connect for Group games or Smash Tour.

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SapphireBlue Since: Jan, 2001
#66218: Dec 17th 2014 at 8:35:09 PM

Top five for me is:

1) Robin

2) Pikachu

3) Pit

4) Zelda

5) Shulk

edited 17th Dec '14 8:35:17 PM by SapphireBlue

Keybreak (Long Runner)
#66219: Dec 17th 2014 at 8:42:52 PM

So I just got all the rewards in Event Mode, even the Kirby one.

It wasn't that hard. All it took was commitment, some good customs, and a few weeks. ;p

Now to move on to everybody's All Star on Hard, a few Smash Tour challenges, beating my rival in Rival KO 4 times, those stupid Cruel Smash challenges, the harder Target Smash challenges, and unlocking everything else.

FUN, RIGHT?

edited 17th Dec '14 8:43:24 PM by Keybreak

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edvedd Darling. from At the boutique, dear. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Darling.
#66220: Dec 17th 2014 at 9:04:11 PM

Oh lord, I'm not sure I can even beat All-Star with everyone. I'm just picking my way through Classic, still. I've only beaten the Master Core forms a few times, and not even the hardest one.

This is where 'too much content' actually does become an issue, IMO.

edited 17th Dec '14 9:04:43 PM by edvedd

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Keybreak (Long Runner)
#66221: Dec 17th 2014 at 9:09:46 PM

This is a Smash that you really have to be GOOD at to get everything you want.

The way you can unlock all the fighters in a few hours is almost insulting when the rest of the game is made up of increasingly painful challenges.

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Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Cat Knows Where It's At
#66222: Dec 17th 2014 at 9:11:22 PM

How is there ever such a thing as too much content? Would you rather only have three things to do and then be done with the game forever?

edited 17th Dec '14 9:11:43 PM by Zelenal

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Zarek Rollin' rollin' rollin' from Jakku Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#66223: Dec 17th 2014 at 9:13:40 PM

Even if there were like three things to do, you'd never really have to be "done" with Smash Bros so long as you have friends and/or an Internet connection.

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Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#66224: Dec 17th 2014 at 9:53:51 PM

This is where 'too much content' actually does become an issue, IMO.
No such thing.

Too much content behind unlocks can definitely be an issue, though.

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Court Dragon
#66225: Dec 17th 2014 at 9:56:21 PM

Too much content can be of the sort where you will never reasonably experience everything or hit every achievement without slavish grinding.

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