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Keybreak (Long Runner)
#64852: Nov 24th 2014 at 11:36:12 PM

I thought that Orbital Gate look like it had a lot of work put into it...I like it. Even though the missiles keep blowing me up. But at least the cycle is pretty much the same each time.

And about amiibos, I already want more. But I really want there to be more games that can use them before I start dumping the money out on them. I'd get Fox and Samus and...maybe Link if he had more than just the Spinner in Hyrule Warriors

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Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#64853: Nov 24th 2014 at 11:49:59 PM

When I watched the Gamexplain video, the missiles didn't do more than annoying damage and left you on the next platform. Can they even KO you? I'm sure they can if you're next to the blast zone and hit by them, but I mean if they can outside of that situation.

Shadow?
KoujiTamino Since: Jul, 2010
#64854: Nov 25th 2014 at 12:01:17 AM

I cleared Crazy Orders for the first time today. While I was a bit intimidated at first by the way it was described it's not so bad. It helps that the game is pretty generous with Crazy Order Passes so it's not as hefty as an investment as they made it sound. It's all about knowing your limits, really.

Keybreak (Long Runner)
#64855: Nov 25th 2014 at 12:06:10 AM

Crazy Orders is one of those "How far can you go?" games. Which are fun, but you can get wrapped up in them pretty far...

Fortunately you can't go longer than 10 minutes, and you'd need like one or two to beat Crazy hand and whatever lackeys he's got, so there's a limiter.

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Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#64856: Nov 25th 2014 at 3:21:59 AM

The fight with Crazy has no time limit.

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FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
feeling blue
#64857: Nov 25th 2014 at 4:24:44 AM

So, I was looking at the Smash ladder and they now have a meta for the Wii U version. Looking at the stages, the starter ones are FD, Battlefield, Delfino Plaza, Town and City and Smashville with Lylat Cruise, Halberd, Pokémon Stadium 2 and Castle Siege being counterpicks.

More than in the 3DS version but I'm kinda surprised the Kalos League is banned, though I haven't played on it yet so I don't know how it really is.

Nap1100 Since: Mar, 2012
#64858: Nov 25th 2014 at 4:40:47 AM

Rayquaza in the Dragon version kinda killed it.

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#64859: Nov 25th 2014 at 4:59:09 AM

I'm surprised Kongo Jungle 64 isn't Counterpick and Duck Hunt isn't Starter...

"It's liberating, realizing you never need to be competent." — Ultimatepheer
BaffleBlend Hey there! Having fun? from Somewhere Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: LET'S HAVE A ZILLION BABIES
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#64860: Nov 25th 2014 at 6:06:17 AM

Okay, I have really been trying to like P:M 3.5, but... They ruined Ganondorf. I know some people prefer that he's closer to canon now with Dead Man's Volley as his neutral special, but giving him flight and reducing Warlock Punch to his side smash just feels wrong.

"It's liberating, realizing you never need to be competent." — Ultimatepheer
Customer Since: Sep, 2009
#64861: Nov 25th 2014 at 6:23:22 AM

[up]You're not the first person I've seen that has said that about PM!Ganondorf and I feel that this reaction kind of proves Sakurai's point about alienating long time Smash!Ganondorf fans by altering Ganondorf's moveset too much just so that he's faithful to his home series. As it stands, the only way I can see Ganondorf getting an alternate (as in, non-Falconized) moveset is if they go the Bowser/Bowser Jr. route and create another Ganondorf (such as Toon Ganondorf or Hyrule Warriors!Ganondorf, both of whom use swords along with Ganon's inherent dark magic) or even a Ganon character(as in, the pig demon/man final boss from the pre-Ocarina games) that has a different set of moves than Smash!Ganondorf.

In regards to Kalos League, I haven't seen much of it. What are the hazards?

kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#64862: Nov 25th 2014 at 6:27:09 AM

I'm still in favor of 5 giving his moveset to Black Shadow and making Ganondorf an entirely unique character.

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#64863: Nov 25th 2014 at 6:41:57 AM

I guess I'd give it another chance if they just differentiated themselves a bit more, so it'd feel more like a fork in the series and less like an obsolete thing that's trying to say Were Still Relevant Dammit.

It didn't bother me when it was the latest entry in the series, but it just pales to Smash U right now.

edited 25th Nov '14 6:42:47 AM by BaffleBlend

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Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#64864: Nov 25th 2014 at 7:18:12 AM

I love Gordos too, Enlong. It's really a go-to move to keep your opponents on guard.

Customer Since: Sep, 2009
#64865: Nov 25th 2014 at 7:19:59 AM

[up][up][up]Yeah, I like that idea too. That idea also reminds me that I still wish that Dark Pit had Brawl!Pit's moveset instead being mostly similar to normal Smash 4 Pit.

Side note: While I still disagree with the idea that Duck Hunt is a reference, I like this pic.

edited 25th Nov '14 7:20:05 AM by Customer

Folt Warlock Necromancer from Hollow Bastion! >=D Since: Jun, 2010
Warlock Necromancer
#64866: Nov 25th 2014 at 7:22:08 AM

I prefer Ganondorf like he is right now. He just works.

Also, for some specific 1.0.4. changes, Ganondorf's aerials all have less landing lag (particularly on the nair), Luigi's F-Smash and D-Smash are slightly more powerful, while his fair and Super Jump Punch are easier to hit with now, Meg Man's Leaf Shield has less endlag, the bug regarding ZSS's infinite on Robin has been fixed, and so on.

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Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#64867: Nov 25th 2014 at 7:31:15 AM

I prefer Ganondorf like he is right now. He just works.
Is that why he's been so low-ranked for two games running now?

He's a character with an attack set based on being mobile who has the worst mobility in the game. I'm not seeing the good there.

I sure said that!
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#64868: Nov 25th 2014 at 7:44:28 AM

Kitten wants to settle it in Smash

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Folt Warlock Necromancer from Hollow Bastion! >=D Since: Jun, 2010
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#64869: Nov 25th 2014 at 7:45:07 AM

[up][up] It has nothing to do with his tier placement. (And let's be honest, he'd be waaaayyy low tier in Melee too if l-cancelling did not excist.) It has everything to do with how ridiculously powerful and intimidating that he feels.

edited 25th Nov '14 7:45:28 AM by Folt

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FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#64870: Nov 25th 2014 at 8:09:02 AM

[up][up][up] Zelda has been low tier since ever too, hell she has it worse than Ganondorf.

Ganondorf is more of a Difficult, but Awesome character at least in Sm4sh from what I've seen of it. He relies on pressuring the opponent until they leave themselves open and get punished by his ridiculously strong moves. If you can predict your opponent right, he's going to destory everything, even more once he gets on higher % because of the rage effect, and considering his weight it's very for him to get there.

Basically, at least Ganondorf can KO people reliably, meanwhile Zelda is also slow and very weak with unreliable kill moves.

edited 25th Nov '14 8:09:24 AM by FullMoon

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#64871: Nov 25th 2014 at 8:38:32 AM

[up]Smash 4 Ganondorf is the only character I've ever heard of who's both a Skill Gate Character and Difficult, but Awesome.

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Nap1100 Since: Mar, 2012
#64872: Nov 25th 2014 at 8:59:18 AM

You haven't played many grappler characters in fighting games, have you. That's like a prerequisite for them.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#64873: Nov 25th 2014 at 10:05:29 AM

[up][up][up]I wouldn't say she's weak, she definitely suffers from being slow, but her attacks do some decent damage.

Alot of them require perfect hits other wise they'll just barely do any damage with either little knock back or just make opponents flinch.

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FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#64874: Nov 25th 2014 at 10:07:38 AM

[up] Well, yeah, she can do good damage, the problem though is that most of her moves are very unreliable and can easily do pretty much nothing to the enemy or even just leave her opens for attacks. Zelda definitely has more problems than Ganondorf in Smash.

Fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#64875: Nov 25th 2014 at 10:10:12 AM

Zelda seems like she has some potential at least... Up-B is strong and can surprise an opponent, Side-B is useful, Down-B I'm not sure about but having two kinds of projectiles is never a bad thing, and her fair and bair are fast and extremely powerful if you can land them, so I think a calm and collected player who can predict and manipulate their opponent well should be able to do pretty well.


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