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Beaver Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#64776: Nov 24th 2014 at 7:00:45 AM

Also he has the worst idea for a character ever.

Alexander the Great from Civilization.

His reasoning is that the longer he is in battle, the more powerful his moves are.

Is this a Jo Jo reference?
Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#64777: Nov 24th 2014 at 7:15:23 AM

That's okay for a single move or maybe a few(see Little Mac and Wario), but the whole character? That's just awful balance.

Shadow?
Folt Warlock Necromancer from Hollow Bastion! >=D Since: Jun, 2010
Warlock Necromancer
#64778: Nov 24th 2014 at 7:25:16 AM

Wario has also been upgraded to even eat energy based projectiles.

Funny thing about this is that it give him five types of things he can eat:

Food and healing items: Wario benefits more if he eats food and healing items. Items with special conditions only give Wario the "healing benefit" if he eats it while fullfilling the conditions. Otherwise, they behave as if they were of the physical stuff type in regards to item swallowing.
Physical stuff: Physical items and projectiles can now be swallowed to heal 1%. Some exceptions to the rule exists, like Dr. Mario's Megavitamins which are treated as if they're of the energy projectile type in regards to item swallowing.
Energy projectiles: Wario can't heal himself from energy items and projectiles (unless it's the lasers from the Ray Gun), so Mario's fireballs can only be negated if eaten.
Explosive stuff: Damages Wario, and anyone near him, though Wario takes the least amount of damage. Examples include any explosive item and Link & Toon Link's Bombs.
Large items: Takes the most time to eat. Examples include Wario's Bike.

I believe these rules apply to a lesser extent to King Dedede and Kirby as well.

edited 24th Nov '14 7:25:55 AM by Folt

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BaffleBlend Hey there! Having fun? from Somewhere Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: LET'S HAVE A ZILLION BABIES
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#64779: Nov 24th 2014 at 8:08:34 AM

...   HYPERBOLIC SCREAMING   

Why? Why is my brother making me wait? There is literally no point in not getting it right now! Especially with the physical version sold out everywhere!

"It's liberating, realizing you never need to be competent." — Ultimatepheer
Dragon_Ranger Since: Jan, 2010
#64780: Nov 24th 2014 at 9:11:04 AM

This current Conquest is rather odd. Shulk, Little Mac, and Bowser? "Bunch of Jokers" is the Conquest title, but I don't see the connection. Also had a hard time figuring out who to use for the Conquest. I just chose Shulk, as I encounter a lot more people who play him than either of the other two.

Tropesofknowledge The Man with the Golden Gun from Your local Cinnabon Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I wanna know about these strangers like me
The Man with the Golden Gun
#64781: Nov 24th 2014 at 9:48:41 AM

Poor Mac. As soon as people realize that you're good but not god-tier like Meta-Knight, you're abandoned by almost everybody and the people that didn't main you have always and will continue to hate you.

edited 24th Nov '14 9:55:50 AM by Tropesofknowledge

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#64782: Nov 24th 2014 at 10:01:25 AM

Seeing the guy behind My Hero Academia do a Mii of Asui Tsuyu inspired me to try to make one of my own.

Are explosions science?
randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#64783: Nov 24th 2014 at 10:18:06 AM

[up]x5 The thing with Wario compared to Dedede and Kirby is that...the Only things Wario can't eat are Smash Balls, mr. Saturn, and Cuccoos.

He can eat literally everything else.

King Dedede can eat energy based projectiles too, he can eat both Link's projectiles...though besides the arrow he needs to actually be a decent range away for bomb and boomerange.

Kirby can't eat anything else that those 2 can.

Wario also gets the most items he can eat to heal from along with not needing to be at a certain range away to eat projectiles.

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Customer Since: Sep, 2009
#64784: Nov 24th 2014 at 10:28:43 AM

This current Conquest is rather odd. Shulk, Little Mac, and Bowser? "Bunch of Jokers" is the Conquest title, but I don't see the connection. Also had a hard time figuring out who to use for the Conquest. I just chose Shulk, as I encounter a lot more people who play him than either of the other two.
Hm, well, considering Pit says that line during Shulk's Palutena Guidance (while effecting an accent for it, although I can't tell if he was trying to be English or not) I assume it has a (small) connection to Xenoblade. I haven't played that game, though, so I can't be sure.

Other than that, there's also the fact that all three of them have Side B specials that can fling them off the stage, making easy to SD with them (though in Bowser's case, it was a command grab that was usually done on purpose, at least before this maneuver was patched so that Bowser wouldn't win the match if he did it on his last stock).

edited 24th Nov '14 10:29:59 AM by Customer

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#64785: Nov 24th 2014 at 10:31:44 AM

I knew about the four other categories of items Wario could eat, I just didn't realize that energy projectiles were now a fifth category.

Fun fact: Wario could eat the Auroros enemies in Subspace Emissary, since they count as items when stuck in the ground. He could also eat Koopas that retreated into their shells. And eating the Stock Ball gave him an extra life just as if he picked it up.

I find it hilarious that Wario is better at eating than Kirby. These humans are not to be underestimated.

edited 24th Nov '14 10:33:43 AM by Anomalocaris20

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Tropesofknowledge The Man with the Golden Gun from Your local Cinnabon Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I wanna know about these strangers like me
The Man with the Golden Gun
#64786: Nov 24th 2014 at 10:34:40 AM

The way I see it, Kirby has standards. Unlike Wario.

edited 24th Nov '14 10:37:40 AM by Tropesofknowledge

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DrFurball Since: Jan, 2001
#64787: Nov 24th 2014 at 10:38:32 AM

This poor guy ended up with a terribly glitched copy of the game, with effects that range from hilarious (Dedede, Yoshi) to horrifying (Rosalina, Ness).

Demonfly birdie fairy Since: Jul, 2012
birdie fairy
#64789: Nov 24th 2014 at 10:52:00 AM

[up][up]Ness seems to be H...A...P...P...Y enough, at least.

[up]Also, Dedede confirmed duck again.

edited 24th Nov '14 10:53:02 AM by Demonfly

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#64790: Nov 24th 2014 at 11:10:49 AM

Oh god its the SF 4 move swaps all over again

Are explosions science?
Dragon_Ranger Since: Jan, 2010
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The Fool
#64792: Nov 24th 2014 at 11:49:04 AM

It looks like a lot of them have to do with the flattening effect used on Mr. Game & Watch and for everyone in Flatzone activating in the wrong ways at the wrong times.

I sure said that!
Keybreak (Long Runner)
#64793: Nov 24th 2014 at 12:26:43 PM

You know, Master Core isn't that hard. It's just a matter of learning his moves and knowing where the enemies show up in Master Fortress.

...haven't finished at 9.0 yet, but I got 8.5...

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CombatC122 from The Frozen Icebox Since: May, 2011
#64794: Nov 24th 2014 at 1:14:00 PM

I have to admit I wasn't all that interested in those Amiibos when I first heard about them, but now that I've seen some in person in stores and have a better idea if how they're integrated exactly into Smash Bros, I'm at least a little curious about one or two. So since they're presumably supposed to get stronger by learning from your own play style, do they not get as strong if you don't put them in battles against the same character? Once they hit the level cap, is there anything else you can do with them to change them around? And if you don't like the way it turns out, can you start it over from level 1 if you want?

Keybreak (Long Runner)
#64795: Nov 24th 2014 at 1:17:07 PM

You can always up their stats, and the game says that they keep learning even when their level is capped.

My aMariibo now takes on way less damage when I fight with him...less than other level 9s on my team.

And I do believe that you can reset their level.

edited 24th Nov '14 1:17:34 PM by Keybreak

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Customer Since: Sep, 2009
#64796: Nov 24th 2014 at 1:34:37 PM

A couple of things about them:

  • They'll continue learning from their battles after level 50.
  • You can reset an amiibo if you don't like how it's turning out or something.
  • Highly-leveled/Level 50 amiibo do more damage than players and CPUS, even if their stats haven't been altered by equipment.

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#64797: Nov 24th 2014 at 1:35:52 PM

Boy am I glad that Mewtwo's DLC and Ridley's a boss out here and that he’s stuck in development and that Falcon's punching out here and that they're in development and I just remembered, they’re out here, but what I wanna know is WHERE'S POPO AND NANA?

Customer Since: Sep, 2009
#64798: Nov 24th 2014 at 1:37:44 PM

They're trophies now.

Sakurai couldn't get them to work with the 3DS version, so they were cut.

Numbuh1234 Since: Apr, 2014
#64799: Nov 24th 2014 at 1:38:12 PM

Their on Holidays at the Bahamas.

In unrelated news, the Bahamas have somehow been covered in thick snow.

BaffleBlend Hey there! Having fun? from Somewhere Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: LET'S HAVE A ZILLION BABIES
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#64800: Nov 24th 2014 at 1:39:01 PM

He finally relented. Bought and downloading now.

[up]Oh great, it looks like they took a Smash Ball with them...

edited 24th Nov '14 1:39:46 PM by BaffleBlend

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