Does anyone notice a difference in Bowser?
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Bowsercide apparently now kills Bowser first.
That doesn't stop people from doing it when you're both at 2 stocks anyway.
Rules of the Internet 45. Rule 45 is a lie. Check out my art if you notice.His dair sweetspot got easier to land though.
Fantastic Supreme Überkaiser Emperor Folt of The Infinity and Beyond" ... "The First"!> download patch and try out Yoshi to see if he feels weaker to me
> he feels stronger to me if anything
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Either I'm just a terrible Yoshi player who has no idea what his character is capable of, or they didn't change anything about him.
Yeahhh I guess I should just wait for the well-researched lists that are inevitably gonna pop up.
I don't think they've changed everyone significantly...
Rules of the Internet 45. Rule 45 is a lie. Check out my art if you notice.I dunno, Fullmoon seemed to really feel the changes to Greninja...
It just occurred to me that Yoshi might actually have had his weight reduced? I only paid attention to his moves. I think Ganondorf might have had his increased... I was playing against a level 9 Bowser Jr. set to total defense in Training Mode, and for one thing, his smashes sent Ganondorf nowhere terribly far even at way past 100%. For another thing, I actually managed to legitimately combo Jr. off the edge and could've gotten him from 0 to death if I hadn't whiffed my edgeguard... Again, against a level 9 CPU doing everything in its power to dodge. Didn't even need the side-b. Now I never used him much, but I think there might be subtle decreases to the ending lag on his attacks to let him string them together better...
... this is pure conjecture, why am I doing this
I said they didn't change "everyone" significantly...
Though, those de-buffs to Greninja might actually make it less annoying to fight him from online players.
Both the actually skilled players and the "spammers"
If they did, I didn't notice.
edited 18th Nov '14 8:07:12 AM by randomness4
Rules of the Internet 45. Rule 45 is a lie. Check out my art if you notice.Greninja's Up Smash was nerfed so that now there's a cooldown period before Greninja can move again, making it impossible to combo it with an up-air. Hydro Pump also got nerfed and pushes the opponent a lot less. All the techniques with Shadow Sneak have been removed.
This is actually demotivating me from playing the game now.
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Ah, yeah. But, you know, you'd think they would change something about Yoshi if he's considered so extremely good and they are visibly nerfing less good characters...?
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Now, I think we can trust them enough not to make an extremely good character even better.
Hmmm. ... I don't know if this is new or old or if it's actually something everyone has or if it's actually terrible, but. Playing with Palutena, I noticed that you can hit an enemy once with the first hit of her jab and, if you time it right, you can grab them immediately afterwards since the first hit sends them ever so slightly towards her. You have to really get the timing down or else the grab button will continue the jab combo. It still works at relatively high percent. Don't know how easily escapable it is... A CPU level 9 set to Run doesn't seem to be able to escape. And her down-throw chains easily into aerials...
... I wish I had someone to test these things with. But I actually think her f-tilt might have shield-breaker qualities? Testing against Bowser, I think two f-tilts would've broken his shield (he dodged the last potential hit). I also get the impression that her smashes, up-tilt and down-tilt might have more knockback behind them, but that's just how I feel after basically never playing her...
Here's one I'm pretty sure of now: Auto-Reticle is super-spammable. Before I think you could use it once and then you'd have to wait a while for it to recharge. It still doesn't fire sometimes... but you can pretty much spam it.
edited 18th Nov '14 8:52:56 AM by Fawriel
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I'm still getting different kicks with Shadow Sneak. I don't know if that's what you meant though.
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well that sounds like a terrible nerf.
edited 18th Nov '14 8:57:14 AM by Hungryguy
Call me butter, because I am on a roll! 3ds friend code: 5258-0885-3903 Wii U: Bowser CharizardHas wii fit trainer always had meteor smash abilities with her f-air?
Call me butter, because I am on a roll! 3ds friend code: 5258-0885-3903 Wii U: Bowser CharizardShe did, yeah.
Honestly this patch kinda drained away a lot of the fun I had. Nerfing Greninja's up-smash was fine but taking away a lot of the things that made Greninja fun to play with, Hydro Pump shenanigans and Shadow Sneak mindgames, just takes away a lot of my enjoyment.
edited 18th Nov '14 9:10:55 AM by FullMoon

Hm... R.O.B. doesn't seem especially changed. Damage output on his projectiles is slightly lower and the initial arc of the Gyro is shorter but covers the same distance thanks to a stronger bounce effect.
It might just be that I've gotten better at handling them, but Duck Hunt seems to have an easier time juggling projectiles now.
edited 18th Nov '14 4:37:23 AM by Pulse
I sure said that!