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Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
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#63301: Nov 4th 2014 at 6:12:08 PM

Done a bunch of 9.0 trial runs. First run was good with Bowser, then i had a few false starts with Ike and Kirby before i got a few good ones rotating through my other mains and back.

I discovered that if you at least get to the final bosses, the run pays for itself and then some, and gets you boffo loot besides. It only burns you if you flop out in the first few rounds (which, yeah... Kirby and Ike. Not sure why).

Edit: Somewhat annoying, though, because i mostly brute-forced my way through the core the previous times i've encountered it, so never really had to "learn" it. So now it's a pure trial by fire. Really wish there were event Matches for this, so i could practice in a setting that didn't call for 10 minutes of warmup investment for each run.

edited 4th Nov '14 6:13:39 PM by Ogodei

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#63302: Nov 4th 2014 at 6:34:31 PM

My math's a bit rusty. About how many wins does it take to nullify a single loss when it comes to For Glory win percentage? I was just assuming 15 before, but now I don't think that's enough...

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#63303: Nov 4th 2014 at 6:41:33 PM

I wish I could say, but I honestly have no idea...but apparently having less Losses doesn't mean much.

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ConstipatedWaffle For The Most Ridley-culous Cause from The Edge Of Insanity Since: Apr, 2013 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#63304: Nov 4th 2014 at 6:47:54 PM

My For Glory win record used to be floating around 65%, now it's dipped below 50%... All because I let my brother start playing online. Oh what a fool I was...

Ah well, wouldn't have kept it up for much longer...

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Demonfly birdie fairy Since: Jul, 2012
birdie fairy
#63305: Nov 4th 2014 at 7:15:16 PM

[up][up][up]There is no set number; win percentages simply take longer to increase (or if you're particularly unlucky, decrease) as your total amount of matches gets higher.

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BaffleBlend Hey there! Having fun? from Somewhere Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: LET'S HAVE A ZILLION BABIES
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#63306: Nov 4th 2014 at 7:25:52 PM

All I know is, there's something fucked up about winning 9 matches and losing 3 while still having a dropping record.

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Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#63307: Nov 4th 2014 at 7:30:21 PM

Although the numbers can vary wildly, it takes a fair number of wins in order to counteract a loss and I think that number goes up as your number of matches goes up.

You see, that's kind of the catch to percentages like that. If you win a match, your number of wins increases by one but so does your number of matches thus the increase in percentage won't be that great. If you lose a match then your number of wins remains the same while your number of matches goes up. You will feel every loss and there's no real way to quickly make up lost ground.

edited 4th Nov '14 7:33:18 PM by Zelenal

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#63308: Nov 4th 2014 at 7:32:28 PM

So I have to have an inhuman win streak to make up for all those stress-induced self destructs a couple weeks ago. That's fucking depressing

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Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#63309: Nov 4th 2014 at 7:33:30 PM

Well, sort of. Once you've done a LOT of matches, your win percentage will barely change no matter what. I'm talking fractions of a percent here. It seems that the best way to get a high win percent is to ALWAYS win your early matches and then at least come out even once you've broken a hundred or so. However, losses do have a bit more effect on the numbers than wins.

edited 4th Nov '14 7:34:19 PM by Zelenal

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#63310: Nov 4th 2014 at 7:36:23 PM

I'll just

I'll just go cry in a corner now

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#63311: Nov 4th 2014 at 7:43:34 PM

There, there, Baffle. Everything will be okay. Here, this should cheer you up.

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#63312: Nov 4th 2014 at 7:49:46 PM

Living and dying are both inconvenient

I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S CONVENIENT

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#63313: Nov 4th 2014 at 7:50:17 PM

[up][up][tup][lol]

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Tropesofknowledge The Man with the Golden Gun from Your local Cinnabon Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I wanna know about these strangers like me
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#63314: Nov 4th 2014 at 7:55:55 PM

To answer your question though Baffle, since your win percentage stops at the hundredths place, you would need a win percentage of 99.995% for the game to round back up to 100% should you lose at any point. So that would mean that you would have to win 99995 out of 100000 battles to cancel 5 losses. If we divide 100000 by 5, then...

20,000. It would take 20,000 wins to cancel out a loss.

edited 4th Nov '14 8:00:57 PM by Tropesofknowledge

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Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#63315: Nov 4th 2014 at 8:03:37 PM

[up] That.... No. I'm no expert at mathematics but that just looks so wrong to me.

edited 4th Nov '14 8:08:22 PM by Zelenal

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Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#63316: Nov 4th 2014 at 8:07:34 PM

*whistles innocently as she enjoys the lack of things to stress about with a roughly 50% win rate*

I sure said that!
Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#63317: Nov 4th 2014 at 8:08:27 PM

Okay, say you have participated in 700 battles and had a win percentage of 85. That means you had won 595 battles. If you lose the next one, that puts you at 84.88%. In order to get back to a win percentage of 85, you would have to only win the next six matches. If I had your exact numbers and goal, I could give you an exact number of wins.

edited 4th Nov '14 8:09:43 PM by Zelenal

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OrionAurora Constellation from Andromeda Galaxy Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: Abstaining
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#63318: Nov 4th 2014 at 8:11:23 PM

How is the win/lose % calculated? It should be as simple as having the following:

Win% = Total Win/Total Battle*100%

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#63319: Nov 4th 2014 at 8:30:42 PM

Whew. So after over an hour of pondering, I think I got it. You would need 19,999 wins to cancel a loss should you be going for 99.995% because the loss is already in the set! 20,000 was the number of matches, not the amount of wins, which is just 20,000-1.

Alternatively, I've found a much easier method to finding out how many wins offset a loss. Just divide wins needed by losses permitted. In order to get a 85/84.995% win record you would need at least 84,995 wins out of 100,000 matches which leaves 15,005 losses. Divide 84,995 by 15,005 and you get ~ 5.664 wins per losses needed to maintain the record. In your example, you won six matches which easily cancelled the loss since you just needed 5.664 wins.

In other words, the amount of wins needed to offset a loss is different depending on the win percentage you're aiming for! And with that I can finally go to bed >_>

edited 4th Nov '14 10:35:29 PM by Tropesofknowledge

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TechPowah Just a simple hero from the room down the hall Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#63320: Nov 4th 2014 at 11:34:32 PM

Silly Villager, with Tom Nook, there's no such thing as "paying off your loan"!

Can we unspoil Jiggz, now?

edited 4th Nov '14 11:34:50 PM by TechPowah

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#63321: Nov 4th 2014 at 11:37:10 PM

Really no point for her to be spoiled now. Kind of obvious, being a starter in one version. tongue

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Demonfly birdie fairy Since: Jul, 2012
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#63322: Nov 5th 2014 at 12:14:53 AM

Bowser Jr. also vaguely seems to be off the list. tongue

[down]...yes

edited 5th Nov '14 12:25:17 AM by Demonfly

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#63324: Nov 5th 2014 at 4:12:06 AM

My current win percentage just dropped below 60.5%. If that tens digit turns into a 5note , I'll probably go into another panic and repeatedly SD again.

Especially considering my actual win:loss ratio is about 5:2. My last panic seriously scarred things.

edited 5th Nov '14 4:14:39 AM by BaffleBlend

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Eldrake Since: Oct, 2009
#63325: Nov 5th 2014 at 4:40:12 AM

I did it! I beat Classic 9.0!

Granted, I did it with Charizard and spammed Rock Smash, and my clone killed itself with Flare Blitz, but still!

I also cheesed Cruel Smash and got 4 K Os with Little Mac. That counter is ridiculous.


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