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Demonfly birdie fairy Since: Jul, 2012
birdie fairy
#62076: Oct 23rd 2014 at 5:47:58 PM

If by no one you mean losers.

In fact, if he's like the Flying Men, he's actively ruining the stage he's on so that losers* will touch it with a ten-foot pole.

tonguetongue

edited 23rd Oct '14 5:48:22 PM by Demonfly

"Tell them to shut up and have some faith in me." - dead flashback guy
randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#62077: Oct 23rd 2014 at 5:52:59 PM

Ridley was built up? I'm pretty sure he was only shown a literal One time and then never really mentioned again until now.

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FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
feeling blue
#62078: Oct 23rd 2014 at 5:54:38 PM

Ridley was pretty much said to be a boss since the first Smash Bros direct, people just kept building false hopes, he was never built up to be playable.

Tatsumar Since: Mar, 2011
#62079: Oct 23rd 2014 at 5:55:11 PM

At least this clears up why he seemed to be moving so weird in that teaser.

If he didn't have the AI to join a player's side his movement pattern would have been a bit smoother.

Deer
Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#62080: Oct 23rd 2014 at 5:55:44 PM

Sakurai tapdanced around him from the moment the Pyrosphere stage was revealed. That he did this was cruel of him- I wish he'd just ripped off the bandage and laughed at the Metroid fans for wanting something new from the start instead of getting our hopes up like that.

I sure said that!
Demonfly birdie fairy Since: Jul, 2012
birdie fairy
#62081: Oct 23rd 2014 at 5:57:16 PM

But you all did get something new!

...Rocket Heels!!

"Tell them to shut up and have some faith in me." - dead flashback guy
Tatsumar Since: Mar, 2011
#62082: Oct 23rd 2014 at 5:58:26 PM

Can I say that Norfair's lava looks beautiful in this? Because it's cool as heck.

And the Great Cave Offensive with 8 players.... Ahhhhhh...

edited 23rd Oct '14 5:59:26 PM by Tatsumar

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#62083: Oct 23rd 2014 at 5:59:41 PM

So, I normally don't like to give out my FC online, but maybe once this is out for Wii U I'll try my hand against some of you guys...

IF YOU DARE.

Or something. I dunno how good I'll be.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
RavenKingSage MY NAME IS GUNDHAM TANAKA Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: The Skitty to my Wailord
MY NAME IS GUNDHAM TANAKA
#62084: Oct 23rd 2014 at 6:00:16 PM

Any time a potential disconfirmation rolled around, it was vague and left room for doubt. It was remarkably inconsistent with the way other popular requests were disconfirmed immediately and outright (like Waluigi).

You'll hear my full thoughts on Ridley (far too many actually) in a video that I'll post here in the near future. I just got off a Skype call with a few others to talk about the Direct, and one person recorded it.

Speaking of Ridley, let me just say this - I am so glad Blur isn't here to pour salt in Ridley fans' wounds.

What is a fandom? A miserable little pile of flame wars! 3DS FC: 0387-9377-7408 PSN ID: Raven King Sage
FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
feeling blue
#62085: Oct 23rd 2014 at 6:03:10 PM

Really, I knew Ridley fans were in for disappointment from the start, I though a shadow of Ridley showing up with a caption saying "Other boss characters may appear" was a pretty obvious hint of what was going on.

RavenKingSage MY NAME IS GUNDHAM TANAKA Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: The Skitty to my Wailord
MY NAME IS GUNDHAM TANAKA
#62086: Oct 23rd 2014 at 6:05:41 PM

But there's no reason he can't be both.

Remember, Ridley has been blown up, reassembled, and cloned many times in Metroid canon. A playable Ridley being the organic Super Metroid incarnation and a stage element being the Other M clone version is entirely possible.

What is a fandom? A miserable little pile of flame wars! 3DS FC: 0387-9377-7408 PSN ID: Raven King Sage
FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
feeling blue
#62087: Oct 23rd 2014 at 6:06:49 PM

Considering Nintendo went out of their way to make Alfonso show up in the Spirit Tracks stage if Toon Link was present to avoid confusion, I doubt they'd allow something like two Ridleys.

RavenKingSage MY NAME IS GUNDHAM TANAKA Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: The Skitty to my Wailord
MY NAME IS GUNDHAM TANAKA
#62088: Oct 23rd 2014 at 6:08:56 PM

It would only cause about as much confusion as playing as Donkey Kong on 75m. Or, for that matter, having a match where 4 players are playing as the same character.

Besides, you can't really just replace a stage element as involved as Other M Ridley.

What is a fandom? A miserable little pile of flame wars! 3DS FC: 0387-9377-7408 PSN ID: Raven King Sage
FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
feeling blue
#62089: Oct 23rd 2014 at 6:11:47 PM

There's still precedent for it though.

And not being able to replace a stage element like that only makes it even more unlikely that Ridley would be both playable and a stage hazard.

Edit because I kinda contradicted myself.

edited 23rd Oct '14 6:14:31 PM by FullMoon

Demonfly birdie fairy Since: Jul, 2012
birdie fairy
#62090: Oct 23rd 2014 at 6:14:32 PM

Well nevermind then.

edited 23rd Oct '14 6:14:52 PM by Demonfly

"Tell them to shut up and have some faith in me." - dead flashback guy
Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#62091: Oct 23rd 2014 at 6:14:44 PM

I mean, technically, Other M's clone of Ridley and every other of Ridley's non-Fusion appearances are different entities, albeit with the implication of something like a Genetic Memory between the two- Kinda like how the original DK is the current DK's father (or grandfather- They don't seem to be able to decide). I guess there's a little hope for this being fixed, but at the same time, I doubt it.

I sure said that!
FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
feeling blue
#62092: Oct 23rd 2014 at 6:14:52 PM

[up] Well, going back to the Alfonzo thing, Spirit Tracks Link is different from Wind Waker Link and they still felt the need to replace him with Alfonzo so...

edited 23rd Oct '14 6:16:02 PM by FullMoon

Tatsumar Since: Mar, 2011
#62093: Oct 23rd 2014 at 6:16:39 PM

Perhaps the DLC for Smash will be like Skullgirls. They'll release new characters as they work on them (most likely not free for three months though). But even if it's only Mewtwo, I'm happy.

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Konkfan7 Konknitive Dissonance from Roselle Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Konknitive Dissonance
#62094: Oct 23rd 2014 at 6:16:43 PM

How about this?

When you play as Ridley, Ridley X replaces Ridley?

Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#62095: Oct 23rd 2014 at 6:18:52 PM

Raven King Sage, talking crap about a banned troper is not a good idea. I suggest editing that.

That said, yes, he danced around it.

Also, he looks far bulkier and has a bigger shadow in the first direct. Since his old data isn't applicable in the 3DS version, it's entirely possible they reworked him before the final version. Instead of being a mediocre hazard, he's a "fighter" as a hazard overall. Also, keep in mind his character icon appears in your KO mark. They are treating him almost exactly the same as a regular fighter except for the fact you cannot play as him. I have my own thoughts on the decision, but I already said them back in the other pages, and the controversy of this makes it not a subject worth going much into.

Shadow?
Tropesofknowledge The Man with the Golden Gun from Your local Cinnabon Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I wanna know about these strangers like me
The Man with the Golden Gun
#62096: Oct 23rd 2014 at 6:19:26 PM

Unless Yellow Devil becomes playable, I'm pretty sure that Ridley is deconfirmed.

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CapedLuigisYoshi Some Gal from right here, duh Since: Nov, 2009 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Some Gal
#62097: Oct 23rd 2014 at 6:19:51 PM

[up][up][up] Too big. They'd have to make stages for 12-Player Mode to fit him in.

edited 23rd Oct '14 6:19:59 PM by CapedLuigisYoshi

a.k.a. Cly, that one girl who doesn't post here much anymore Something something YI = SMW 2 = SMB 5.
MetaflarePrime Urara-lala~! (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Sinking with my ship
Urara-lala~!
#62098: Oct 23rd 2014 at 6:21:17 PM

mewtwo?

mewtWO

MEWTWO

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Tatsumar Since: Mar, 2011
#62099: Oct 23rd 2014 at 6:22:53 PM

They best keep Mewtwo's "NI-YEE" voice clip.

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TheHeroHartmut Too hot to hoot from Probably not right behind you (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Singularity
Too hot to hoot
#62100: Oct 23rd 2014 at 6:23:11 PM

On the subject of boss/stage hazards, Metal Face looked pretty cool, too.

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