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GreatT HOT DOG Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#61652: Oct 20th 2014 at 2:22:42 PM

Now whenever I see The Great Wario's Neutral Air, I can't help but think of the Karnov Balloon.

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Yinyang107 from the True North (Decatroper) Relationship Status: Tongue-tied
#61653: Oct 20th 2014 at 2:46:57 PM

So when does the spoiler ban expire, anyway? Couple months after For 3DS's release?

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#61654: Oct 20th 2014 at 2:49:34 PM

A month after the Wii U Version's release. Characters will all be eventually revealed by Sakurai, but I'm sure there will be some hidden stuff in the Wii U version. Sort of like how Master Core was only hinted at before the Japanese release.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#61655: Oct 20th 2014 at 2:55:21 PM

Shared content (Such as character roster) and anything exclusive to the 3DS version will probably be fair game a month after its release. Spoileriffic content exclusive to the Wii U version (Such as hidden stages) will be fair game a month after its release, as well.

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ConstipatedWaffle For The Most Ridley-culous Cause from The Edge Of Insanity Since: Apr, 2013 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#61656: Oct 20th 2014 at 3:51:46 PM

I'm all for keeping the character roster secret until after the Wii U version, honestly, just for courtesy. I mean, I don't personally care either way, but it just seems like it would be a nice precaution to take.

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Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#61657: Oct 20th 2014 at 4:26:45 PM

It's quite possible we could get more characters on the Wii U version that are available for the 3DS in some way. If that is the case, any "hidden" ones should wait till a month after the Wii U version. Key term being if.

Besides that, we can assume DLC characters are not spoilers, right? Those are full announcements, not anything different from character trailers.

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Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
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#61658: Oct 20th 2014 at 5:00:52 PM

I don't think that is possible. It'd straight-up contradict what has been said about the rosters from day 1. I know we all want more characters, but...

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Elbruno Mummy Woomy from Chile: Not As Dry As Space! Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#61659: Oct 20th 2014 at 5:05:53 PM

Both games would still have the same roster though, only a tad split-up for the 3DS.

edited 20th Oct '14 5:06:31 PM by Elbruno

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Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
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#61660: Oct 20th 2014 at 5:07:55 PM

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Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#61661: Oct 20th 2014 at 5:09:57 PM

Theoretically, if there were some characters who could only be unlocked via system connections but could be played in both versions, Sakurai wouldn't have been lying.

There IS still the mystery of why the downloaded version of Smash 3DS requests an extra gigabyte of memory.

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Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#61662: Oct 20th 2014 at 5:09:57 PM

It wouldn't contradict a thing. They will be the same. Overall. Getting any ones introduced on the Wii U on the 3DS automatically makes them the exact same roster.

It means indefinitely zero exclusive playables on one version over the other. Not that DLC or characters introduced on one version first cannot happen. Loopholes aren't contradictions as long as it still follows the philosophy. Which would be the case regardless.

Whether it's likely or not is another story, but not impossible? That'd be playing a semantics game when it still follows the clear intent behind his statement. Both rosters will be the same for both versions. He didn't say when in any way, just that it will be the same overall. It's the same reason why DLC is beyond possible, never mind the hackers found an online shop to get Challengers Approaching notifications. It means the game is clearly designed to accept DLC characters. Presuming he goes that route(which he may or may not, but he prepared it).

edited 20th Oct '14 5:21:06 PM by Irene

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Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
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#61663: Oct 20th 2014 at 5:15:26 PM

They found stuff that looks like an online store. They found the words "a challenger approaches".

Are those two linked, in the data they found?

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Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#61664: Oct 20th 2014 at 5:23:39 PM

Indefinitely, yes.

From here. No spoilers in the starting post, but later ones could be the case, so be warned.

As I said, this doesn't guarantee Character DLC, but it shows he can do it if he wants to and he outright set up the system to allow it. I know that they found Stage arrows similar to the ones shown in the post I linked. DLC stages are highly possible as well.

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#61665: Oct 20th 2014 at 5:30:26 PM

Considering its proximity to various "connecting to a Wii U" messages and instructions, my first thought on that "a challenger approaches" message is that it's a message to signify you dropping into the Wii U's lobby (so to speak) or maybe it's telling you that another 3DS has joined.

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Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#61666: Oct 20th 2014 at 5:36:34 PM

Well, considering we found icons that are specifically designed to change to another Stage Select or Roster Select screen in the same area, I'm doubting that.

Not impossible, though. But I can't see why he'd forego Character DLC when it's a goldmine of easy sales(not necessarily because the DLC is priced, but people will flock to either version if there's even more characters you can get). Mewtwo and Ridley alone would be exciting.

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Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
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#61667: Oct 20th 2014 at 6:07:31 PM

Oh, I'm not discounting the possibility, nor am I saying I don't want it. I totally would.

What I'm arguing is whther that particular "a challenger approaches text" is related to the store-and-DLC portion of the whole thing.

And I'm trying not to expect anything, as that could end poorly.

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Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#61668: Oct 20th 2014 at 6:09:03 PM

There is a 100% chance of some kind of DLC being implemented, but beyond that I can't say there's anything to expect.

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Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#61669: Oct 20th 2014 at 6:39:37 PM

Well, patches are DLC by definition, so it happened already. That, and we got a new mode too recently. XD

Anyway, I totally hope so. Now that more time is available to work on DLC with no deadline issues, the door is open. Including veterans of most characters cut. Only ones I see unlikely are Roy(cause of the name issue and Marth has a clone already, heh), Snake(unless Konami and Nintendo make up, as they aren't exactly friendly lately), and Young Link(besides an alt, there's no transformations gimmick for him anymore to cling onto, so...).

edited 20th Oct '14 6:43:21 PM by Irene

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Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
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#61670: Oct 20th 2014 at 7:05:23 PM

[up] Unless they did a thing where he transformed only long enough to perform an attack, then immediately swapped back.

That said, a gimmick like continually changing models would probably be hell to program and fit on the already mightily-taxed 3DS. As for other Young Link ideas, I'd say he's otherwise out. I mean, Toon Link even has his Fire Arrows.

In other news, Lucario's Glancing Counter is nice. So much less likely that you'll end up killing yourself by using it.

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Tropesofknowledge The Man with the Golden Gun from Your local Cinnabon Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I wanna know about these strangers like me
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#61671: Oct 20th 2014 at 7:46:57 PM

[up] The same cannot be said for Little Mac.

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edited 20th Oct '14 7:57:09 PM by Tropesofknowledge

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Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#61672: Oct 20th 2014 at 8:08:12 PM

[up][up] Agreed. Which is why I don't mind him as an alt anymore. They could simply remodel his bombs and boomerang to look like their past self and nothing more. Otherwise, no differences. It'd be a fun free DLC. Of course, this isn't doable for someone like Pichu, who is not just different sized, but his damage mechanic is pretty much what makes him unique from Pikachu as is. He has small differences otherwise at best.

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Demonfly birdie fairy Since: Jul, 2012
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#61673: Oct 20th 2014 at 8:16:33 PM

I'm really not sure why everyone keeps assuming that all hypothetical DLC for this game would be free...

As for Pichu, in an ideal world he would not necessarily be an alt, but instead a Pikachu color with the cheeks, ear patterns, etc. slightly edited. Same with poor Raichu, although that would probably require a bit more flexibility.

edited 20th Oct '14 8:19:26 PM by Demonfly

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Mrsunshinesprinkles Forever Gorgeous from Somewhere, crying Since: Jan, 2012
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#61674: Oct 20th 2014 at 8:18:30 PM

Is Jigglypuff still tight this game? I wanna try it, since a fighter that's shit in the ground and god in the air sounds fun.

edited 20th Oct '14 9:08:46 PM by Mrsunshinesprinkles

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Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#61675: Oct 20th 2014 at 8:27:37 PM

Since Dr. Mario was brought back as is, it's important we don't assume everybody knows about each cut or returning vet. So it makes sense to spoiler any possible character till they're revealed(the only hidden characters revealed entirely are Lucina, Ganondorf, and Ness), DLC or otherwise. Just common courtesy to not assume, really. I don't think anyone's assuming any Character DLC will be free, just hoping for it at best. Likewise, we still have to wait for it to happen as is, if it will be.

[up] Hidden character not revealed, please spoiler it. And yes, Jigglypuff seems a lot better than her Brawl self. More on par with the first two games.

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